wifi connection

Any idea why my Dell laptop takes about 10 to 15 seconds to connect to my EE wifi.

Which EE router do you have?

EE don't supply your wifi. Your router, AP or extenders do.

Unless the OP means Home �mobile broadband�.

Or even means the WiFi from an EE router.

Knowing what router it is will tell us which of those is the case.

In reply to a post by broadband66:

EE don't supply your wifi. Your router, AP or extenders do.

And!

Seeing as you are being pedantic, at the level of detail you post there routers do not supply WiFi.

EE users have a habit of calling BB "WiFi"!

That may well be, though it is becoming quite common on these forums for newbies using any provider. As in �my broadband is running slow�, but their router stats are fine and they are on a reputable supplier. It is their wireless connection that is suspect.

I presume that fewer and fewer people every year have ever heard of Ethernet , and would need to look it up when reading this post. When out and about, broadband is WiFi. Or should that be the other way round?

My first post justified your question, in the light of the second reply to the OP, as knowing the router would tell you which service the OP is on.

My second post was unhappiness with a pedant laying down the law to the OP about hardware and being wrong .

As to the OP�s question, I have no idea what the answer is, as there isn't sufficient information.

I was trying to help the OP by explaining that an ISP doesn't supply wifi. The wifi module is built in to the router box so to a layperson the router does "supply" the wifi.

As the OP hasn't replied with the details of how they connect via wifi then they can't be that bothered.

EE describe it as a "router", so that was the most useful term to use.

I think I do know what goes where.

You were trying to explain to the poster at rather a detailed level. When doing that you need to get the detail right. XRaySpex asked the right question. I expect the answer to that will tell us what the OP means .

Even now, you use the term �router box�. That too may or may not include a modem and in domestic models usually an Ethernet switch.

My ISP-supplied router has only one wire going into it, and that is the power cable. It does have a single ethernet port, to which I occasionally connect a laptop. Normally my main laptop, this iPad and my phone connect wirelessly to the internet through it.

How does my ISP provide my broadband connection? How would you describe it?

My phone contains, amongst other things, both a router and a WAP. I expect yours does as well. I think I�ll start calling it a CD. After all, does play music, and doesn�t even need a hole in the middle for a spindle. Technology really has moved on. Or not. In the 20th century �wireless� was a noun.

I think we digress. Other than the first two paragraphs I�m just having a bit of fun in all that, whilst pointing out that what we call things often bears little relation to what they are or do. I hope you will take it that way, now I point it out.

Bob, are you having a bad day? Putting an emoji at the end of a sentence doesn't make YOU less pedantic.

As the OP never told us how he was connecting and Xray had already asked for more info, I just tried to make things a little clearer.

You flounder. (Verb, not noun).

I have EE smart Hub 2. Why is this relevant. The icon on the taskbar takes about 10 to 15 seconds to change to indicate connection to my wifi. It could be my laptop is slow!!.

There's a lot of work going on when a device connects to a WiFi network - handshaking, determination of highest standard to use, password checking, acquisition of IP address, etc. 10 to 15 seconds isn't an unduly long time to complete a connection, in my experience.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kb7993/why-it-tak...

Are you initiating the connection manually or is this the time it is taking after the laptop has fully booted. Normally if a device is connected to WiFi as a default then it gets the connection before the boot has finished. But, if you are manually connecting then 10 to 15 seconds doesn't sound an inordinately long time.

In reply to a post by samulam:

I have EE smart Hub 2. Why is this relevant.

Three possible reasons.

1) As has been discussed in the thread, you could have been talking about Home Mobile Broadband. Not landline broadband. There are many on these forums that no longer use landline broadband, me being one of them. (See my sig).

Knowing the router tells us which.

2) It�s quite possible that a particular router is known to have a fixable problem of this kind.

3) With anything except the simplest of computer, broadband, WiFi or related problems where the answer is often well-known to �geeks�, an experienced diagnostician needs the maximum possible information.

Which you subconsciously realised, because you posted in the Windows forum so we can be fairly sure of the OS, you told us the make of the laptop, you told us the provider of the service and by implication that the router is also from EE. All of those are relevant .

It could well be your lappy is slow. Which model is it? 15 sec doesn't seem long to me on initial connection.

Try separating the wireless channels of the EE Smart Hub. On the Advanced / Wireless Settings page of the SH there is a button near the top to Separate the Bands. Turn it ON. Then the 5GHz SSID will appear starting with "5GHz-" & the 2.4 GHz SSID not starting with "5GHz-". Then get the lappy to connect to most suitable SSID.for it.

This might take a few secs of decision making out of the router . You can always turn it back if it doesn't help.

Edited by XRaySpeX (Wed 13-Nov-19 00:53:04)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

That may well be, though it is becoming quite common on these forums for newbies using any provider. As in �my broadband is running slow�, but their router stats are fine and they are on a reputable supplier. It is their wireless connection that is suspect.

And so too may be their use of a wireless link in the first place.

From the man that brought you the idea that one should never, ever, give up having a traditional hard-wired POTS phone in addition to whatever else you have comes the equally firm suggestion that one should never, ever, use wireless links for anything, networking, light switches, door bells, CH controls - the list goes on and on - if wired is an option.

And if that means flood-wiring your house with Cat# cabling then so be it.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In the 20th century �wireless� was a noun.

And in the 19th it was an adjective.

In reply to a post by Scientistnsaint:

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In the 20th century �wireless� was a noun.

And in the 19th it was an adjective.

Indeed. But your advice in this post shows you have no real concept of consumer demand in the 21st.

Providing water taps on all street corners instead of direct to houses would even now save a huge amount of money. Less used, less lost by leakage, less sewage, smaller or fewer reservoirs and purification plants.

Plus fitter people from the exercise of collecting and carrying it, so less pressure on the NHS. And so on and so on .

Hi, many thanks for your response.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Indeed. But your advice in this post shows you have no real concept of consumer demand in the 21st

That's completely untrue.

What your post here shows is that you have no real concept of how to read and understand.

Nowhere did I try to deny what the consumer demand is for wireless-everything.

If you read my post again maybe you'll see that I was advising against jumping on that bandwagon, not denying its existence, its size, or its velocity.