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Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Jan-21 14:10:01
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Setting up gmail.com or outlook.com email accounts


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Normally I use my own domain for email addresses using either my AAISP or TSOhost account. Now recently to enable portability between a group of users, I have been asked to set up a gmail.com account or similar.

Ideally I want to be able to send/receive the emails via my Office Outlook 2007. So far, whilst able to use the respective webmail accesses, I cannot get Outlook 2007 to log in to either of gmail or outlook.

End up with being asked for my password and then having it rejected. The passwords I'm using are correct since I needed same to log into the web version.

I know that Outlook 2007 is not the latest, but in the case of gmail, that even offers instructions for its use with Eudora which I used to use with Win 95 back in the day! And has since ceased.

(I don't want to use Eudora, just quoting that as an example.)

My PC is running Win7 Pro 64 bit

Cheers!

Clive

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Standard User GonePostal
(committed) Thu 14-Jan-21 14:59:47
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Re: Setting up gmail.com or outlook.com email accounts


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Googled "Outlook 2007 Gmail" and got this:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/m...

The fix seems to be explained in the last response at the foot of the thread.

Edited by GonePostal (Thu 14-Jan-21 15:03:38)

Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Jan-21 22:28:20
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I too had Googled and it seems the ability for Outlook to be accessed by Outlook 2007 was designed out a couple of years ago.

Similarly, it does not seem possible to have two independent Outlook.com accounts on the same PC (well for the same user) such as a personal account and another in a different name. Which is what I wanted so that in due time I can hand over that other account to whoever supersedes me.

Cheers!

Clive

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Jan-21 21:50:13
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The issue with running Outlook 2007 is that it will have security vulnerabilities in it such that it would be possible to receive a malicious email and that email be able to actually infect your PC (or do something else undesirable). I'd really recommend updating.

It is possible it will simply not work (properly) as Outlook 2007 may not have the sufficient functionality to connect to Gmail servers.

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Jan-21 23:03:14
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Yes, newer versions of Outlook support OAuth 2.0 and so do not require "allow less secure apps" to be enabled on Gmail.

Oliver.
Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Jan-21 23:38:43
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That confirms what I have since been reading. So that is gmail off my list.

outlook.com does not want to play either. This initially at least, in that setting up a second outlook.com account (which could later be passed on) on the same pc proved impossible.

I have now found gmx.com email which is free and happy to reside as a web based system and also via Outlook using POP3 or imap with smtp. Was very easy to set up the account and similarly Outlook 2007

It is part of the 1&1 etc company.

Cheers!

Clive

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Jan-21 11:45:52
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It is interesting that more than 1 company is warning you that Outlook 2007 is insecure but that your solution is to go to a company that doesn't mind rather than to replace the very old insecure email app... Outlook 2007 went out of support in 2017 and so security holes are not going to be patched.
Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Jan-21 14:36:29
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In reply to a post by ian72:
It is interesting that more than 1 company is warning you that Outlook 2007 is insecure but that your solution is to go to a company that doesn't mind rather than to replace the very old insecure email app... Outlook 2007 went out of support in 2017 and so security holes are not going to be patched.

Agree - continuing to use 2007 is not clever. In addition gmx is not a reputable email service and deliverability will not be as good as the likes of gmail/hotmail (outlook).

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Jan-21 15:57:53
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He's also running Windows 7 which is unsupported and insecure. Some people refuse to follow sound advice I guess.

Oliver.
Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Jan-21 17:22:52
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I would have used either gmail or outlook.com, but not so easy if you want an independent account that can be passed on to another future user.

Before I opened the gmx account, I tried gmail. One issue there, was that the google account that it demanded (I did not have one before) becomes my name for anything Google related.

It appears that at one time a user could have two unrelated outlook.com email accounts, say [email protected] and [email protected] but now if you have an outlook.com address, then a new one becomes linked to the first one. So once I relinquish my secretary post and hand over the log-in to the new guy, he/she would be linked to my outlook.com account.

Which email client would you suggest? Where does gmx fall down?

Cheers!

Clive

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Jan-21 20:20:25
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I'm not aware of Outlook accounts becoming linked like that. Gmail and outlook accounts are fine to be passed on to someone else in the future - all you need to do is remember to change the recovery account details at the same time when you hand over the initial account. I'd go for Gmail.

Use InPrivate browsing to access it then it will not interfere with your normal google account (If you have one)

You'll find that GMX mail servers may appear on blacklists from time to time (due to service abuse) so emails you are send are more likely to turn up in people's junk email folders vs slightly more reputable services. In addition the GMX interface isn't very good.

Ideally if you can afford it - worth considering registering a domain and using either a web host webmail or an Outlook.com account which allows integration with a domain name. It will cost a few quid but help a lot when it comes to transfer time and also reputability.

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Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Tue 19-Jan-21 15:40:02
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I have 2 laptops running XP , 1 on 7 and 1 on 10. I have lots of update issues with the W10 machine and have had to recover it recently. Never had any issues with the other machines and if good firewall and antivirus is used then no issues.

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 19-Jan-21 17:23:16
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In reply to a post by broadband66:
I have 2 laptops running XP , 1 on 7 and 1 on 10. I have lots of update issues with the W10 machine and have had to recover it recently. Never had any issues with the other machines and if good firewall and antivirus is used then no issues.


Why don't you just browse the web using IE5 - as long as you've got a firewall and antivirus then you should be OK right!?

Perhaps the likleyhood of issues is still small but you are playing a dangerous game of probability when you are browsing the internet and accessing email using out of date software - you only need to get compromised once and it will soon cause a lot more inconvenience and cost than having a newer system would have.

Not only that is is irresponsible because if you get compromised and your personal emails get leaked or you get scammed for money then all the people you have emailed also have their email exchanges with you compromised and the bank is having to compensate you for your failures to be secure. There is a line to be drawn with these things and browsing the internet using XP is irresponsible. Imagine if your bank lost all your details and it turned out it was because they had not updated any of their systems and were just carrying on running a 20 year old operating system - would you be pleased?

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Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Wed 20-Jan-21 15:09:08
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NHS and XP.

I never said I used the XP machine to browse the web or with email.

Mountains and molehills spring to mind. Even on W10 with bells and whistles attached some idiot will always download and install some dodgy bit of software (app) with a new virus included or open an email that they shouldn't.

There are thousands of users of unsecure web enabled devices that haven't a clue how to change their, so called, smart device details but they are happily continuing with life.

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