Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account

Flipping stupid idea, why should people be forced to have a Ms account if they have no requirement for them. Even Apple have not gone this far with Mac OS.

Certainly will keep me away from Windows 11 even if I don't go the MAc way.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940517/windows-...

As far as I'm aware you can just go through this with your noddy microsoft account and then create a non-Microsoft account thereafter and never use the Microsoft account any more. Microsoft still need to sell copies of Windows to enterprise etc so the ability to avoid Microsoft account will be there.

What version of Windows are you using at the moment? I can remember when you said you wouldn't use Windows 8 It's easier to just stay with the times.

Embrace Windows 11. Just work around any of its privacy invasion attempts.

In reply to a post by Pipexer:

As far as I'm aware you can just go through this with your noddy microsoft account and then create a non-Microsoft account thereafter and never use the Microsoft account any more. Microsoft still need to sell copies of Windows to enterprise etc so the ability to avoid Microsoft account will be there.

What version of Windows are you using at the moment? I can remember when you said you wouldn't use Windows 8 It's easier to just stay with the times.

Embrace Windows 11. Just work around any of its privacy invasion attempts.

Noddy Microsoft account? I don't have an MS account and I don't want one. Windows 11 pro business users can set up using a domain, so that is fine, Their is a way to get around it, having to pull out the ethernet at a certain time on installation, then Windows 11 will eventually ask for a local account, this is on the home version, but no doubt MS will block that hack. The problem is, what happens when a computer have Wi-fi and Windows 11 don't have the drivers?

I am using Windows 10, as it says on the sig, I liked Windows 8, I don't remember saying I would not use it, in fact I wanted to stay with Windows 8 instead of going to 10.

You are looking at things the wrong way and this is why we companies do what they like, because like you say embrace, this is why we can't even go to the supermarket without being asked have you a clubcard, nectar or sparks card,. i don't want to embrace it and maybe if enough people say no, Ms may think again.

It shows how desperate Ms is to get people to have a MS account, all I can think it is for is more data grabbing.
Bring back the Amiga days I think

It doesnt bother me in the least. An online account tells Microsoft (Apple, whoever) no more about me than a local one does. But an online account is far more secure than a local one, and very convenient if you use more than one device. Plus. I get free online storage.

You need online accounts to do most anything on the Internet nowadays.

It would only bother me if I wanted a computer that wasn't connected to the outside world; there are plenty of alternative OSs to handle that situation.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Flipping stupid idea, why should people be forced to have a Ms account if they have no requirement for them. Even Apple have not gone this far with Mac OS.

Its in "insiders" so lets stop the panic and wait and see if its mandated.

My next PC will have an Intel Core 12th Gen CPU and I want to run Windows, so it will have to be Win11 as the older OSes are not being updated to understand the different core types. (performance cores vs efficiency cores).

In reply to a post by TinyMongomery:

It doesnt bother me in the least. An online account tells Microsoft (Apple, whoever) no more about me than a local one does. But an online account is far more secure than a local one, and very convenient if you use more than one device. Plus. I get free online storage.

You need online accounts to do most anything on the Internet nowadays.

It would only bother me if I wanted a computer that wasn't connected to the outside world; there are plenty of alternative OSs to handle that situation.

That is fine, it does not bother you, at the end of the day it is your choice if you want a MS account, just like it should be my choice that I don't want one. How is a Online account more secure than a local one?
wow, free online storage, I can get that from any provider, in fact I got it from Dropbox, not that I use it these days, i only used it for two files to share between this machine and my old laptop and Onedrive would be useless for that. These days I have the files on my Nas. Not that I use the old laptop these much these days. I tend not to use cloud storage, prefer my stuff to be stored locally.

You say we need accounts to do anything on the Internet, but that is the problem, what I am doing on my computer don't need an MS account to do it, so even if my computer is connected to the net, it still doesn't need a MS account. I don't want to use MS services, I have no need for them.

I would love to use Linux, but Linux don't have the software I use.

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In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Flipping stupid idea, why should people be forced to have a Ms account if they have no requirement for them. Even Apple have not gone this far with Mac OS.

Its in "insiders" so lets stop the panic and wait and see if its mandated.

My next PC will have an Intel Core 12th Gen CPU and I want to run Windows, so it will have to be Win11 as the older OSes are not being updated to understand the different core types. (performance cores vs efficiency cores).

It will be mandated Ms wants us all to use their MS accounts, I am shocked they have not forced it on Windows 10 users. I can see many people staying with Windows 10 and not bother to update, in fact I had a message of someone who has Windows 11 on a newish and have seen this news and now wants me to put Windows 10 on the new computer. He has been thinking of doing that anyway, but this news has certainly made up his mind for him.


This windows 10 not supporting new hardware is like when Windows 10 came out, Windows 8 not supporting newer hardware.
MS is in Cahoots with the hardware manufactures, and they have proved it again and again.

Well if I stay with P.C and will be staying with windows 10

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

How is a Online account more secure than a local one?

It's harder for a hacker to get at the password database.

wow, free online storage, I can get that from any provider, in fact I got it from Dropbox, not that I use it these days,

Don't you need an online account for that?

even if my computer is connected to the net, it still doesn't need a MS account.

But Microsoft get just as much information about you as they would if you had an online account.

In reply to a post by TinyMongomery:

]It's harder for a hacker to get at the password database.

What password database?

Don't you need an online account for that?

yes, but it is my choice, it was my choice to use Dropbox, my choice to have an online account, that is the difference and also it is easy enough to stop dropbox and there is only one directory connected to it.

But Microsoft get just as much information about you as they would if you had an online account.

You may be right, but i still feel this is all about data grabbing, after all what other reason would MS want use to use an MS account? It is a free account, so they will not make money out of it unless they manage to persuade some people to update to say Microsoft 365. MS don't give out free Ms account for no reason at all, like any other company who does the same sort of thing, the same thing as supermarket loyalty cards, people think they are getting something great form them, not realising that the supermarkets are grabbing a load of data worth a lot more to them than the petty few points they give out.


Almost everything thing these days is data grabbing and to be honest I am getting a bit fed up with it. even the company that makes my printer wanted me to download some software, so it could send info back to them, thankfully it is a separate bit of software.

I miss the days when we could go shopping, just buy the products, pay and walk out, without getting them trying to get us to sign up for something. The days even on the net when I could just buy stuff and not have because you got that, we think you may want to back that.
it is all big data. even our local town centre is capturing people's Wi-Fi on their phones, so they can count how many people go into town, My phone wi-fi is turned off once I leave the house.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

What password database?

The one that stores account passwords.

yes, but it is my choice, it was my choice to use Dropbox, my choice to have an online account

Your choice to use Windows.