Trying Thunderbird

The Mail program by Mozilla that is. It's not bad once you customise it to be similar to Win 11 Mail program which I like. One annoying thing is mail is always ascending instead of descending my preferred arrangement. Why are you trying TB you ask. Because MS in its wisdom is replacing Win 11 Mail with New Outlook which at the moment doesn't cope with IMAP. I have sent numerous feedback reports about it not working in the New Outlook but Win 11 Mail and TB just work. Not happy about a new buggy Outlook being forced upon me in 2024.

Just click on the titles above the email list, so click on Date if you want Date to change order.
I like thunderbird, I have been using Apple Mail or mac Mail or whatever it is called since I had the Mac, but I am thinking of going back to Thunderbird.

Used it for years on Windows.
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In reply to a post by Banger:

Because MS in its wisdom is replacing Win 11 Mail with New Outlook which at the moment doesn't cope with IMAP.

New Outlook copes with IMAP, but it wants all your IMAP passwords, and to synch all your third party email account emails onto MS's cloud, which I decided against in favour of Thunderbird.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

New Outlook copes with IMAP, but it wants all your IMAP passwords, and to synch all your third party email account emails onto MS's cloud, which I decided against in favour of Thunderbird.

Email clients need the passwords to access the server to get the emails.
Are you saying that New outlook uploads email from other providers up to MS servers?

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Are you saying that New outlook uploads email from other providers up to MS servers?

For IMAP yes. Not sure about POP. Doesn't for Exchange, and may not for Gmail.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Are you saying that New outlook uploads email from other providers up to MS servers?

Correct. In effect, New Outlook will only fetch email from MS servers. All third party IMAP accounts must be synched to the MS cloud so they can be read.

Edited by Oliver341 (Thu 30-Nov-23 19:21:01)

Well after a lot of tweaking have finally got New Outlook to log in to my PlusNet supplied domain with IMAP after finding the settings on PlusNet. Reading the above regarding syncing with MS cloud I will probably stick with TB as I am getting used to it and like the blocking of images in emails by TB.

I'd argue for most people TB is better than outlook (the full fat one) plus android now has k9.........


i finally can kill gmail.

I haven't used Mail or Outlook for weeks now TB suits me fine.

K9 is good too, small fast and easy to setup, even on my old phone.

Does anyone use K-9 with a Hotmail account? I'm currently using the Samsung email app on android but need to look for a replacement due to a bug in the app.

you will need to create an "app password" in outlook.com

In reply to a post by Taras:

you will need to create an "app password" in outlook.com

Will look into that