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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 15-May-12 15:35:58
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Re: FREE Community WiFi Broadband - Not a myth!!


[re: communityuk] [link to this post]
 
hello, anonymous and not posted before but only because I can't be bothered to register but saw this and thought it was interesting.

I think the forum members are right to be wary of a man coming into to town apparently selling snake oil / elixir of life. This is a forum afterall and not a press release / news platform.

I've read the about us PDF on your website and it sounds a bit like a local advertising portal (much like the rags that get put through my door on a monthly basis) with a forum for chat for the locals.

There's a slight lack of transparency not helped by the god awful layout and design of the website but if all you're doing is providing free 2 meg wireless broadband in return for a local portal, and providing some funding for local projects then I don't see what the problem is here.

I'd like to know how you decide what projects get funding though?
Standard User communityuk
(newbie) Tue 15-May-12 17:50:57
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Re: FREE Community WiFi Broadband - Not a myth!!


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Mr Anonymous,

To be honest I find the "Snake Oil" comment unnecessary and rather offensive but hey - Forums are often, unfortunately, full of this type of childish, offensive dribble, which I believe has to be seen for the rubbish it is and treated like water off a duck's back and is now. At least I am out in the open smile

As to your final somewhat reasonable question is preceded by a variety of unpleasantly put subjective opinions, I do not see a good reason to answer you so won't.

AGAIN - The project is working, lots of people are very happy and the communities are genuinely benefitting.

AGAIN - If anyone GENUINE really wants to know more about what we do, asks constructive, politely/respectfully put questions etc. I will be only happy to engage with them.

As to any further openly derogatory and indeed boringly offensive posts - They will be ignored.

Regards,
Peter Reed-Forrester
CommunityUK.net Ltd
Tel: 0845 077 4014
Mob: 07828 075140
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.communityuk.net
Skype: peter.reed.forrester
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 15-May-12 18:10:49
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Re: FREE Community WiFi Broadband - Not a myth!!


[re: communityuk] [link to this post]
 
As stated before ny other people:

How are you going to pay for bandwidth. especially if a mad torrent freak sits there with a seed box 24/7?

How are you going to police your network with regards of criminal activity, be it copyright infigement all the way up to scams and child pornography?

The adage if something seemd to good to be true it probably is is definately looks like here.


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Standard User JNeuhoff
(experienced) Tue 15-May-12 19:39:38
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Re: FREE Community WiFi Broadband - Not a myth!!


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So are you able to provide 50 or 100mbps broadband services, ideally as symmetric connections, for a small town in Essex? Our town has no FTTP nor FTTC (VDSL) services, BT doesn't even answer enquiries about leased lines, and the landlines here are of poor quality, old copper wires hanging over the streets. The local council is of no use here when it comes to broadband plans.

However, there should be a good market demand here for better telecom services, including 2 business parks which currently have no decent business grade broadband services.

So if you are interested, send me a PM, I am always willing to take a closer look at any provider as long as it can actually offer some better telecom services than BT does at the moment.
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Tue 15-May-12 19:49:17
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Re: FREE Community WiFi Broadband - Not a myth!!


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In reply to a post by communityuk:
Mr Anonymous,

To be honest I find the "Snake Oil" comment unnecessary and rather offensive but hey - Forums are often, unfortunately, full of this type of childish, offensive dribble, which I believe has to be seen for the rubbish it is and treated like water off a duck's back and is now. At least I am out in the open smile

As to your final somewhat reasonable question is preceded by a variety of unpleasantly put subjective opinions, I do not see a good reason to answer you so won't.

AGAIN - The project is working, lots of people are very happy and the communities are genuinely benefitting.

AGAIN - If anyone GENUINE really wants to know more about what we do, asks constructive, politely/respectfully put questions etc. I will be only happy to engage with them.

As to any further openly derogatory and indeed boringly offensive posts - They will be ignored.
I'm amazed by your posting style. You've been asked many questions which you have failed to answer, you just keep pushing the line that "it's working".

I'm afraid you don't fill me with any confidence -at all- that you are supplying anything worth talking about.

I don't think you will be around in a year's time.


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Standard User partial
(learned) Tue 15-May-12 20:56:07
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Re: FREE Community WiFi Broadband - Not a myth!!


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Best of luck. Kijoma need to raise their game in the South East and a bit of healthy competition will help.

From what I have seen of those who successfully market on forums, they start by offering helpful advice and stroking the egos of prolific forum posters.

Before you know it, prolific forum users do the marketing for you.

I would advise against newbie forum marketing followed by hostile and defensive back up.
Standard User communityuk
(newbie) Tue 15-May-12 21:22:42
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HI,

Ok in answer to your questions.

1) We pay for our bandwidth through revenue generated - As with any other ISP/WISP - As to our business model, I am happy to disclose all that is necessary to communities that are genuinely interested in our services. This would be done, as previously mentioned, using the normal sensible business precautions to protect our IP etc. This is NOT avoiding the question but simply not being prepared to show you our "undies" in an open forum.

2) We use our own, custom built system that manages Bandwidth on a per user basis and is able to take very good care of any "mad torrent freak" very effectively to ensure that no other user's experience is damaged in any way by the selfish users that are always out there. Again the actual system/technology is not for open forum discussion for what I would expect to be very obvious reasons.

3) With regard to criminal activity, copyright infringement etc., we are as protected as ANY other ISP/WISP out there and more than most. Again our own systems keep ample records for use at any time by the appropriate authorities and we make it our business to cooperate fully and rapidly if we need to.

Our system also, arbitrarily, blocks access to Pornography and much other unpleasant and unnecessary content on ALL of our networks - The first UK ISP to do this I believe and we are proud of it. WE believe the protection of our children is far more important than any adult's right to access content such as this.

Our Broadband links are also protected by the Internet Watch Foundation's Blocking list, we support CEOP and display the CEOP Panic button across our site, offer a comprehensive "Safe Surfing" guide and have, for example, been given a full and clean bill of health by Hampshire County Council and their Child Services team as being suitable for use by children in their schools and in their county.

Hopefully this answers all of your questions and reduces your level of perhaps understandable cynicism in this day and age.

I think your final comment is actually unfair but I guess, as I said, understandable.

Believe me, people and organisations ARE capable of doing good things and doing them well. Hopefully you can believe that one day too smile

Regards,
Peter Reed-Forrester
CommunityUK.net Ltd
Tel: 0845 077 4014
Mob: 07828 075140
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.communityuk.net
Skype: peter.reed.forrester
Standard User communityuk
(newbie) Tue 15-May-12 21:27:13
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Thanks for the advice but I guess I have never been the most "politically correct" of individuals.

I believe I am just being honest and saying it how it is.

It seems that some "egos" are more than a little bit fragile when tested but I cannot move away from "honesty being the best policy" and I think you will have to admit that I have not been rude to anyone just straightforward and perhaps a little "back at you".

I hope the other straightforward and honest forum users can actually see this and appreciate it. At least a little smile

Again, thanks for the advice and well wishes though - Greatly appreciated smile

Regards,
Peter Reed-Forrester
CommunityUK.net Ltd
Tel: 0845 077 4014
Mob: 07828 075140
Email: [email protected]et
Web: www.communityuk.net
Skype: peter.reed.forrester
Standard User communityuk
(newbie) Tue 15-May-12 21:31:19
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Re: FREE Community WiFi Broadband - Not a myth!!


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Thank you for your kind comments and well wishes smile

I think if you actually read my posts properly, you will see that I have answered all questions that have been politely put as best as I possibly can on this forum.

Also, why should I be afraid to repeat as much as necessary that our service and offering genuinely works - especially in the face of such cynicism and derision?

I will always defend my myself, my company and push what I believe is right Batboy - Without any fear of whom that might upset.

See you in a year or two, or three etc. smile

Regards,
Peter Reed-Forrester
CommunityUK.net Ltd
Tel: 0845 077 4014
Mob: 07828 075140
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.communityuk.net
Skype: peter.reed.forrester
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Tue 15-May-12 21:39:49
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Yes mate. At least a good step forward from computer operator.


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