Here we are

On all pay now, only on the five megabits package, but it is still better than what I got before, once I get rid of phone line I will go for the higher speed.

so far so good.

Also thanks to the installers, certainly the one who went onto the roof in the pouring rain with thunder rumbling around.

Out of interest, can you paste a ping result to bbc.co.uk ?

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

Out of interest, can you paste a ping result to bbc.co.uk ?

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131] with 32 bytes of d
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=92ms TTL=243
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=24
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=208ms TTL=24
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=24

Ping statistics for 212.58.241.131:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% los
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 92ms, Maximum = 208ms, Average = 151ms

Not done a ping for a while, so I am not sure if that is good or bad, not that it makes much difference to me

Not brilliant then! My ping from Northumberland on BE* is:-

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=245

Ping statistics for 212.58.241.131:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 33ms, Maximum = 77ms, Average = 44ms

This is via WiFi from my laptop as well.

Stability is more important than out and out speed but there does come a point when true response time (pings always get lowest priority) impacts web browsing when rendering complex pages - especially with data from multiple sites.

Not what I would have expected on Fixed Wireless. Was you downloading/uploading something on your connection at the same time?

Can you do a trace route?

tracert bbc.co.uk

What are speeds like?

I done ping again from my laptop using ubuntu, better results,, I got problems with man computer, that I am trying to sort out, so that may have been the reason why.
[email protected]:~$ ping bbc.co.uk
PING bbc.co.uk (212.58.241.131) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 212.58.241.131: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=30.5 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.241.131: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=33.0 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.241.131: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=30.5 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.241.131: icmp_seq=4 ttl=243 time=32.1 ms
^C64 bytes from 212.58.241.131: icmp_seq=5 ttl=243 time=31.1 ms

--- bbc.co.uk ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 20261ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 30.531/31.492/33.062/0.979 ms


Not done trace route yet, tried it on laptop and it did not do the same thing as on windows

I will give it a go on the other desktop tomorrow



I gone for the 5 megabits and like any other ISP it can change, but it is normally over 4, which is pretty good for me, in the next month or so I will go for the the megabits. Uploading is not as high as I thought it would be, but if I go to the ten it will be higher.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/2037262828.png

this was also done on my laptop,

Edited by zyborg47 (Sat 30-Jun-12 10:47:13)

From my VFast connection (24mbit down / 10mbit up)

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.68] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=55
Reply from 212.58.244.68: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 212.58.244.68:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 6ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 7ms

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.246.90]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms unknown [192.168.1.1]
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 202.88.80.arpa.orbital.net [80.88.202.20]
3 3 ms 4 ms 4 ms 202.88.80.arpa.orbital.net [80.88.202.19]
4 6 ms 6 ms 7 ms ge0.ln1.thn.orbital.net [80.88.216.113]
5 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms bbc-linx.pr01.thdow.bbc.co.uk [195.66.224.103]
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 16 ms 10 ms 8 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
8 8 ms 11 ms 14 ms 132.185.255.165
9 7 ms 8 ms 6 ms bbc-vip011.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.90]

Trace complete.

Edited by Yaz (Sat 30-Jun-12 13:01:10)

Pretty good that, I never got that even with ADSL. How much do you pay for that then, if you don't mind me asking?

The thing you should remember is that the ISp I am with was never really for people in the city, our exchange covers a wide area and many people are lucky to get a megabit on the outskirts, some can't even get ADSL, so All Pay is a great thing for them. Maybe once fibre is up and running around here they may change their prices, they will have to if they want to attract people in the city itself.

TBH what they have done is great, most of their access points are on churches, mine is on the cathedral, they have given people who can't normally get broadband the chance to have the benefits people in the city have.


Also quality depends on the supplier they are using, looking at the trace route and the DNs servers that came up on my router, I say they are using Zen, never used Zen before.

The 24/10 package is £36.99 and the have a 15/2 package at £24.99 - In areas across Kent where they have had Kent County Council funding they have a lower package of 2/0.256 at £17.99.

VFast cover both slow/not spots and city/town areas in Kent. Although I am just over 3miles/5km from the centre of Canterbury we were on the outer edges of DSL until VFast enabled the nearest mast to me.

I've not used Zen before but they are supposed to be a pretty good provider (check the Zen Forum).

Not bad prices, i presume Vfast is a ISp in their own right which makes it easier for them to bring the prices to better levels, just like Vispa. all Pay as I said seems to be a reseller for Zen.

Their equipment can go to 35megabits, but that is for large Businesses at the moment by the seems of it. they will have to change that later on and give a good price other wise they may lose people after the contract ends. 24 months by the way, never thought I would sign up for a 24 month one.

All Pay offer a 2megabit package for £15, i be surprised if many people take that up unless they just do the odd browsing and email.

Sadly All pay get no support from council or anyone else, but saying the company that I rent my house from is suppose to be using them to give all their residents free broadband in the next five years. i just jumped in quicker.

We will see what happens, so far I been happy with what I got, even at 5Mb/s I am still getting a better speed than my old ADSL service, not because my old ISp was no good, on the contrary they was very good, but because my phone cables are so long. I will pop up 10Mb/s in the next couple of months, I won't know what to do with that speed even the five I get now is more than I ever got before.


I can watch netflix and in Medium HD, if HD is available, only had that now and again with ADSL and then it did not last long, kept changing ,