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Standard User shaunhw
(experienced) Sun 03-Dec-06 12:27:09
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Why don't zen introduce off peak usage ?


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Hello,

Given that it seems Zen seem to be worrying about bandwidth (having capped their legacy users) why don't they introduce off peak usage ?

What's all that central capacity really doing at 4.00 am in the morning anyway ? Is it somehow used by the Australians I wonder ?

Have Zen got to the point where they realise a new BT central might be needed (because of the influx of customers from PN, Pipex and the like) and are now looking at these heavy legacy users to save them the expense of having to get one ?

Surely if Zen have got peak time bandwidth problems they could solve them by encouraging people to download big things overnight, by giving capped users extra off peak allowances, instead of GOING BACK on their word not to cap legacy users...

Not that 100Gig is bad, considering other people only get 50 Gig for the same price.

But if the pipes are vastly underused overnight, isn't there a case for Zen allowing customers to take advantage of that ?

When there is no incentive to do otherwise, customers will download their stuff at times convenient to them. That means a lot of bandwidth needed at peak times surely ?


I think Entanet resellers will do well out of this. I sure am tempted because NOTHING Zen offer really matches my own requirements.



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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 03-Dec-06 12:36:32
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Because there will be people who'll download 100GB at peak time, then use off-peak hours to download 400GB more. The cap is to get rid people using their connections 24x7. Allowing them to download more defeats the point of introducing the cap.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 03-Dec-06 12:46:32
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Pure speculation but given that Zen has a large business base there is probably a lot of out of hours business traffic. For example my office server backs up overnight to two remote locations.


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Standard User stentionhouse
(experienced) Sun 03-Dec-06 12:53:07
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The hardcore 24x7ers will most likely just move to uncapped biz products.
Standard User shaunhw
(experienced) Sun 03-Dec-06 12:53:31
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They could introduce new accounts targetted at home users with less peak time allowance, and more off peak allowances, which might encourage more home users to download overnight....

This "Using their connections 24/7" always makes me wonder.

It isn't the 24/7 that's the problem, it is the overuse during peak time (whenever that happens to be) which is the problem.

Downloading when most people are fast asleep, and not using their connections at all, shouldn't be a problem given that the bandwidth is still there, and not being used.

Perhaps Zen have a lot of capped customers who are insomniacs and like to use their home connections at four thirty in the morning ?

My own connection is rarely used after 22.00 hours... I don't work then, and I don't play then...


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Standard User shaunhw
(experienced) Sun 03-Dec-06 12:54:11
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"The hardcore 24x7ers will most likely just move to uncapped biz products. "

Which will then quickly become capped......

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Standard User shaunhw
(experienced) Sun 03-Dec-06 12:55:47
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Perhaps, but I think even this will count for very little....


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 03-Dec-06 13:12:23
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Presumably you'd also like them to introduce traffic shaping a la Plusnet....
Standard User shaunhw
(experienced) Sun 03-Dec-06 13:18:51
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How on earth did you arrive at such a ridiculous and frankly patently stupid and insulting conclusion ?


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Standard User fornowagain
(newbie) Sun 03-Dec-06 13:35:02
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Off peak would have been fine by me. Shame as I hate moving.
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