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Standard User AndyPandy
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 23-Aug-16 10:11:02
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Zen Fibre GEA Migration


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Hi All,

This morning I got a fright when I saw an update from Follow The Page, with the following:

+ There is currently a Broadband cease pending or in progress against
+ this line. This cease is due to complete by 5th September 2016. This
+ will not stop you ordering Broadband from a new supplier, but it will
+ delay the provision of the new Broadband service.

I logged onto the Zen portal to see what the hell is going on (I'm not cancelling, moving etc.) and I saw this is open orders:

Zen Fibre GEA Migration - Waiting for regrade - IN PROGRESS FOR 1 DAY

Can someone please explain what this is, and why I wasn't notified? Nearly had a heart attack and thought my account was compromised!

Cheers,
AP


ZeN Unlimited Fibre 2
Fritz!Box 3390
Standard User David_W
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 23-Aug-16 10:22:50
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Re: Zen Fibre GEA Migration


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This is a consequence of Zen now having their own backhaul available at the handover point for your FTTC or FTTP. When this happens, they migrate all customers from BT Wholesale's WBMC to their own backhaul (so Openreach GEA-FTTx plus Zen backhaul). Your contractual position remains unchanged. The likelihood is that your PPPoE connection will drop and re-establish automatically a few minutes later.



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Standard User AndyPandy
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 23-Aug-16 11:39:33
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Re: Zen Fibre GEA Migration


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Thanks for the reply, hope that's it!


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Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Tue 23-Aug-16 11:57:17
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Re: Zen Fibre GEA Migration


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You could always ask Zen's legendary support...
Standard User rippedcotton
(experienced) Tue 23-Aug-16 13:36:31
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Re: Zen Fibre GEA Migration


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In reply to a post by David_W:
This is a consequence of Zen now having their own backhaul available at the handover point for your FTTC or FTTP. When this happens, they migrate all customers from BT Wholesale's WBMC to their own backhaul (so Openreach GEA-FTTx plus Zen backhaul). Your contractual position remains unchanged. The likelihood is that your PPPoE connection will drop and re-establish automatically a few minutes later.


This happened to me earlier in the month. The only change is that the minimum latency has doubled from 8-9ms up to 18ms. Everything else is pretty much unchanged.

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Brian

Zen Fibre 2 - 80/20 sync
Standard User AndyPandy
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 25-Aug-16 10:14:47
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Tried that - it seems it's no longer legendary at all. Maybe they're getting too big.


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Standard User Icaras
(experienced) Thu 25-Aug-16 13:22:38
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You may have a while where you have no PPP session while it switches. But your sync will stay and you'll notice. I difference with your line stats as nothing changes at the cabinet end.
Standard User xnsys
(newbie) Sat 03-Sep-16 16:02:09
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I'm getting higher latency too - but one other thing I noticed is that I had to reduce the MTU in order to visit some sites.

Google, Facebook and others were fine, but Apple, this forum for example weren't - reducing the MTU to 1472 worked, was at 1492 before.

Anything higher than 1972 it will do funny things.
Standard User David_W
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 05-Sep-16 13:07:33
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I have no problems visiting this site with my Zen 'own network' connection set to MTU 1500 (I have an RFC 4638 enabled router - pfSense 2.3.2). Indeed, I had no problems in my pre-RFC 4638 days using MTU 1492 on the Zen network.



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Standard User rippedcotton
(experienced) Mon 07-Nov-16 16:59:28
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In reply to a post by rippedcotton:
In reply to a post by David_W:
This is a consequence of Zen now having their own backhaul available at the handover point for your FTTC or FTTP. When this happens, they migrate all customers from BT Wholesale's WBMC to their own backhaul (so Openreach GEA-FTTx plus Zen backhaul). Your contractual position remains unchanged. The likelihood is that your PPPoE connection will drop and re-establish automatically a few minutes later.


This happened to me earlier in the month. The only change is that the minimum latency has doubled from 8-9ms up to 18ms. Everything else is pretty much unchanged.


And it has now come back down again to the original 8ms, not quite sure what was done to achieve this, probably something in the internal bits of Zen or their suppliers.

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Brian

Zen Fibre 2 - 80/20 sync
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Mon 07-Nov-16 21:46:01
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They must be expanding their LLU footprint adding more exchanges , I have a similar pending order of GEA migration , hope latency doesn't increase as a result of this
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Nov-16 13:30:17
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In reply to a post by David_W:
This is a consequence of Zen now having their own backhaul available at the handover point for your FTTC or FTTP. When this happens, they migrate all customers from BT Wholesale's WBMC to their own backhaul (so Openreach GEA-FTTx plus Zen backhaul). Your contractual position remains unchanged. The likelihood is that your PPPoE connection will drop and re-establish automatically a few minutes later.

Well the did my circuit last night (12:15 am) for some reason unknown sync was lost and so was G.inp as a result along with 8-9mbps sync speed on the DS , on fast path profile now, but errors are racking up ,
The other issue i have is also a result of this change in backhaul is that i'm now routed via london for everything and i live in the north-west of the uk, , and have been routed via manchester since i migrated to zen over 12mths ago

I have spoken with zen support and i'm not getting anywhere so far, if they refuse to route me to manchester again i'll be looking else where
ISP Representative jongreen84
(isp) Thu 17-Nov-16 18:42:57
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Hi,

If you PM me your username I'll take a look into this for you, and make sure you're getting the correct message from support.

Thanks,

Jon
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Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Nov-16 19:17:50
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In reply to a post by jongreen84:
Hi,

If you PM me your username I'll take a look into this for you, and make sure you're getting the correct message from support.

Thanks,

Jon
Oh dear looks like I have the single threaded issue too, thank's to being steered onto the London lns gateways for traffic to everywhere why i didn't get left on the manchester server i don't for the life of me know, it makes absolutly no sense or logic at all , you will have a PM shortly
One of the better ones ,http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/14794...

Edited by tommy45 (Thu 17-Nov-16 19:37:37)

ISP Representative jongreen84
(isp) Thu 17-Nov-16 19:50:24
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PM received, thanks! As per my more detailed reply via PM, I'll look into things tomorrow and update you.

Thanks,

Jon
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