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Standard User jaydub
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 20-Jun-20 11:40:38
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Re: Fritz 7530 - disabling tr069 and closing the port


[re: BLaZiNgSPEED] [link to this post]
 
I'm not a Zen customer, so may be wrong on this, but I very much doubt that Zen lock the Fritzbox down.

You are paying for more than basic connection with Zen, you ar paying for a better level of support and investment in their own infrastructure.

You only have to look at the ISP Review ratings on the main TBB site to see how differently people rate Zen compared to TT.

By the way the sync speed you are seeing is nothing to do with the ISP, it's down to the physical properties oy your line minus any crosstalk fromother people's FTTC connection in your cabinet. Throughput is a different matter and the consumer ISPs like TT tend to run their networks at higher capacity levels than the likes of Zen.

You tend to get what you pay for in life and we all have different priorities and budgets.

Doing a cost comparison isn't comparing like for like in my view. I'm not a Zen customer and definitely not a Zen fan boy, but I do think your comments need to be put into context.
Standard User mikel543
(newbie) Sat 20-Jun-20 12:07:04
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Re: Fritz 7530 - disabling tr069 and closing the port


[re: BLaZiNgSPEED] [link to this post]
 
Not to mention (correct me if I am wrong) that Fritz 7530 router supplied by Zen is locked so you can't then use it with another ISP. Since the firmware has been modified by the ISP. So it would be better to separately buy the router from amazon and you know the router hasn't been modified and locked.


No it isn't, you can simply select other provider in the connection settings and enter the details. I used this feature to connect to another providers service while I was waiting for my Zen service to activate as it was better than the rubbish ISP supplied router from my previous provider that was dropping connection every couple of days.

Apart from the connection drop when G.INP was enabled, the Fritzbox has been rock solid compared to the previous ISPs kit.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 20-Jun-20 12:41:43
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Re: Fritz 7530 - disabling tr069 and closing the port


[re: BLaZiNgSPEED] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:
... But then again Zen is also much more expensive as an ISP compared to most. Fritz 7530 costs £120 on amazon for example. You pay Zen £34.99 they provide you a £120 router for free but in the end you are paying on average £10 more for the exact same 80/20 package compared to let's say TalkTalk £21.95.

So if we calculate 34.99-21.95=£13.04 Multiply by 12 months and that's the equivalence of £156.48. This is how Zen manage to compensate the router cost by increasing the price package. In fact they are making a profit as in the end it ends up costing quite a bit more than if you buy separately.
I think you get rather more included in the subscription than the free router and 80/20 package. As has pointed out.

You may even get a higher connection speed, as there are three stability levels offered by Openreach, selectable by the provider. AIUI TalkTalk default to the most stable, so slowest sync, and Zen go for the fastest like most do.

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Connection - Three B311 4G, tbb tests normally 35-45Mpbs down, 65Mbps off-peak, 9-24 up. 1+ 8 Pro max 80Mbps down, 24Mbps up.
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Edited by RobertoS (Sat 20-Jun-20 12:42:11)


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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 20-Jun-20 13:55:14
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Re: Fritz 7530 - disabling tr069 and closing the port


[re: BLaZiNgSPEED] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:
Not to mention (correct me if I am wrong) that Fritz 7530 router supplied by Zen is locked so you can't then use it with another ISP. Since the firmware has been modified by the ISP. So it would be better to separately buy the router from amazon and you know the router hasn't been modified and locked.


I'll happily correct you.
You're wrong.

Zen don't lock down the Fritzbox in anyway. They simply add TR-069 details, which can be changed by the user.

It isn't locked to any ISP. It isn't modified and has no functionality removed.

It is absolutely ridiculous to calculate the value of an ISP based solely on the value of the router they provide.

Your (absurd) calculation also assumes that Talktalk get their routers for free... I can assure you they do not.

Your comment advising the user above to swap their "locked down ISP model router" made the incorrect assumption that Zen provided a locked down piece of junk like Talktalk.
They do not.

There's considerably more to an ISP that just cost and the router they provide.
Good luck getting a static IP or IPV6 from Talktalk.
Good luck getting a UK based rep on the phone from Talktalk.

Your posts are very repetitive and often make a bunch of incorrect assumptions.

The Zen section of the forum isn't the place for bragging that Talktalk is cheaper.
Everyone on Zen knows Talktalk is cheaper, and they deliberately picked Zen anyway.
There are many many reasons why people pick a more expensive ISP.
Standard User steve25
(newbie) Sun 21-Jun-20 13:06:20
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Re: Fritz 7530 - disabling tr069 and closing the port


[re: techguy] [link to this post]
 
I have successfully used 2nd hand FritzBox 3490 and 7530 models on various ISPs FTTC lines for several years, always reset to factory settings and chosen ISP "other", no issues.
Standard User comerford
(learned) Sun 21-Jun-20 15:22:08
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Re: Fritz 7530 - disabling tr069 and closing the port


[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
Well said.Zen have time and again proved themselves head and shoulders ahead of 'cheaper' ISPs. Even when a problem has been of their own making they will own it until it's resolved.
Standard User techguy
(experienced) Mon 22-Jun-20 19:08:05
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[re: ajays] [link to this post]
 
Apologies this was just a straight question asked as I wanted to ensure I wasn't bumped off while working on someone's machine or one of our servers at work.

For the record I'm very happy with my connection with Zen and the quality of the hardware supplied, when I've had issues they've been dealt with swiftly and professionally.

March marked my sixth year with them.

Virgin (ADSL) => Namesco => Newnet => O2 => Plusnet => Zen => Newnet => Zen => Freeola => Vivaciti (using O2 Wholesale DSL) => Xilo (C&W Wholesale) => Xilo (O2 Wholesale) => Xilo (TT Wholesale due to O2 Wholesale closure) => Zen LLU => Zen FTTP (39.5 Mbps down, 9.5 Mbps up)
Router: Fritzbox 3490
Note: I don't lay turf for anyone. astro or otherwise, all views and opinions expressed are my own based on experience.
Standard User MissRiaElaine
(newbie) Sun 28-Jun-20 16:04:22
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Re: Fritz 7530 - disabling tr069 and closing the port


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We've just switched to Zen after several years with Sky, and quite honestly I don't know why we didn't do it years ago. I've always liked Fritz routers, having been given one by a friend who worked for Sipgate many years ago and getting them to work on Sky was always a challenge. I did get a 7170 to work after prising out the user login details from them, but it stopped working when we switched to FTTC.

So when we decided to jump ship, I looked at Zen and decided they were worth talking to, so rang up the tech support number to see if they supported Fritz routers. While I was on hold, my other half piped up "they supply one..!" after browsing a bit further on their site.

By the time the tech guy answered (who knew exactly what I was talking about) I was sold, and signed up there and then. This was only last week so we haven't gone live yet, but I'm sure we won't be disappointed.

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Ria in Aberdeen xx
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