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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Wed 23-Mar-22 08:07:35
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IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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Overnight my connection was lost (DSL dropped), and when it came back a minute later it was without IPv6. Also on looking at the quality monitor latency has doubled.

IPv4 Quality Monitor

IPv6 Quality Monitor

Looking in the router log the connection established says:
23.03.22 03:53:51 Internet connection established successfully. IP address: 88.97.xx.xxx, DNS server: 212.23.3.100 and 212.23.6.100, gateway: 51.148.77.130, broadband PoP: BNG3.WH-MAN-RE0

23.03.22 03:53:59 Could not obtain IPv6 prefix. Reason for error: 6 (No prefixes have been assigned) [2 messages since 23.03.22 03:53:56]

23.03.22 03:54:11 Could not establish IPv6 internet connection: No response from DHCPv6 server (SOL).


Edit:

Reconnect (twice) still no IPv6 but PoP changed to BNG4.WH-MAN-RE0
Power off router for a minute still no IPv6

jelv

FTTC & Line rental: ZeN from March 2021

Previously: AAISP (November 2016 to March 2021) & Pulse8 line rental
Plusnet November 2001 to October 2016

Edited by jelv (Wed 23-Mar-22 08:33:44)

Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Wed 23-Mar-22 10:14:22
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Re: IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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When I called I was told my connection had been regraded a little while back - I suspect that this was the first time I had reconnected since the regrade was done.

They've just called to say they have fixed the problem and after a reconnect now I see
gateway: 51.148.77.132, broadband PoP: BNG4.THN-LON-RE0
IPv6 is working and latency seems to be back to normal.

jelv

FTTC & Line rental: ZeN from March 2021

Previously: AAISP (November 2016 to March 2021) & Pulse8 line rental
Plusnet November 2001 to October 2016

Edited by jelv (Wed 23-Mar-22 10:14:43)

Standard User Ad_G
(learned) Wed 23-Mar-22 11:53:04
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Re: IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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WH-MAN will be their Manchester PoP - so it looks like they moved your connection up to there rather than one of their London sites, which might explain the latency increase.

RE0 at the end is interesting, that implies a Juniper device, not sure I've seen those before at Zen, are BNG3 and BNG4 new devices? Perhaps they'd not got IPv6 setup right on the Manchester boxes?


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Standard User SiPurdy
(newbie) Wed 23-Mar-22 12:52:55
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Re: IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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Any account change causes a loss of the IPv6 config.
I had a GEA Migration and a separate FTTP regrade knock out the IPv6 config this week.
Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Wed 23-Mar-22 16:26:33
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Re: IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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If they keep getting it wrong you'd think they'd learn and add checking for that to the procedure!

jelv

FTTC & Line rental: ZeN from March 2021

Previously: AAISP (November 2016 to March 2021) & Pulse8 line rental
Plusnet November 2001 to October 2016
Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Wed 23-Mar-22 16:31:11
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Re: IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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Moving my connection to Manchester is ridiculous. My head end exchange is Shaftesbury, Dorset - London is much closer.

jelv

FTTC & Line rental: ZeN from March 2021

Previously: AAISP (November 2016 to March 2021) & Pulse8 line rental
Plusnet November 2001 to October 2016
Standard User tboorman
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 24-Mar-22 02:24:38
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Re: IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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If you try reconnecting, you might get a different gateway. This is a recurring complaint about Zen.
Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Thu 24-Mar-22 08:21:36
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Re: IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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I'd tried two reconnects and a router reboot before I called Zen. Every time I was connected to a Manchester gateway with the same issues - you can see those in the IPv4 monitor in my opening post - about 7:40 x 2 and 8:20 for the reboot.

After they said they'd fixed it I reconnected and was back on a London gateway - all seems back to normal since then.

jelv

FTTC & Line rental: ZeN from March 2021

Previously: AAISP (November 2016 to March 2021) & Pulse8 line rental
Plusnet November 2001 to October 2016
Standard User techguy
(experienced) Thu 24-Mar-22 20:35:24
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Re: IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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In reply to a post by SiPurdy:
Any account change causes a loss of the IPv6 config.
I had a GEA Migration and a separate FTTP regrade knock out the IPv6 config this week.


Interesting, had a GEA FTTP migration back in April 21 and a regrade back in Feb up to 300 Meg and had no issues with losing the IPv6 config.

Am on Openreach FTTP as opposed to CityFibre, which are you on?

Also I think OR connections are still terminated on their Huawei gear

tracert -4 www.thinkbroadband.com

Tracing route to www.thinkbroadband.com.cdn.cloudflare.net [104.20.171.77]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.8.1]
2 15 ms 3 ms 3 ms vt1.cor2.lond1.ptn.zen.net.uk [51.148.72.22]
3 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms lag-9.p2.thn-lon.zen.net.uk [51.148.73.174]
4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms lag-1.br2.ixn-lon.zen.net.uk [51.148.73.169]
5 * 4 ms * linx-lon1.as13335.net [195.66.225.179]
6 6 ms 4 ms 4 ms 141.101.71.2
7 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms 104.20.171.77

I can't guarantee this will definitely work but if you want to switch links you need to power off your router for a couple of minutes.


Internet connection established successfully. IP address: 217.x.x.x, DNS server: 212.23.3.100 and 212.23.6.100, gateway: 51.148.72.22, broadband PoP: cor2.lond1-vt1

Virgin (ADSL) => Namesco => Newnet => O2 => Plusnet => Zen => Newnet => Zen => Freeola => Vivaciti (using O2 Wholesale DSL) => Xilo (C&W Wholesale) => Xilo (O2 Wholesale) => Xilo (TT Wholesale due to O2 Wholesale closure) => Zen LLU =>> ZeN FTTP (Openreach 300 Mbps down, 47 Mbps up)
Router: Fritzbox 7530


Note: I don't lay turf for anyone. astro or otherwise, all views and opinions expressed are my own based on experience.

Edited by techguy (Thu 24-Mar-22 20:40:05)

Standard User SiPurdy
(newbie) Fri 25-Mar-22 05:06:24
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Re: IPv6 lost and latency doubled


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In reply to a post by techguy:
tracert -4 www.thinkbroadband.com

Tracing route to www.thinkbroadband.com.cdn.cloudflare.net [104.20.171.77]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.8.1]
2 15 ms 3 ms 3 ms vt1.cor2.lond1.ptn.zen.net.uk [51.148.72.22]
3 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms lag-9.p2.thn-lon.zen.net.uk [51.148.73.174]
4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms lag-1.br2.ixn-lon.zen.net.uk [51.148.73.169]
5 * 4 ms * linx-lon1.as13335.net [195.66.225.179]
6 6 ms 4 ms 4 ms 141.101.71.2
7 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms 104.20.171.77

Where in the uk are you? By the pings I'm guessing closer to london?

tracert -4 www.thinkbroadband.com

Tracing route to www.thinkbroadband.com.cdn.cloudflare.net [104.20.171.77]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms vt1.cor2.lond1.ptn.zen.net.uk [51.148.72.22]
3 13 ms 14 ms 16 ms lag-9.p1.thn-lon.zen.net.uk [51.148.73.160]
4 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms lag-2.br2.thn-lon.zen.net.uk [51.148.73.155]
5 * 14 ms 16 ms linx-lon1.as13335.net [195.66.225.179]
6 27 ms 14 ms 13 ms 172.70.160.2
7 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms 104.20.171.77

Trace complete.

Dam the laws of physics! smile
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