FritzBox 7530 AX - some or all connections?

I know Zen supply the 7530 AX for 900MB FTTP connections and maybe also for the 500 service. Do they now supply this version to all FTTP or is it still the plain 7530 for the slower 100 etc services.

Thanks

I asked Perplexity.ai and got a straight answer.

Zen supplies both the FRITZ!Box 7530 and the FRITZ!Box 7530 AX routers, depending on the broadband package and speed you choose:
The FRITZ!Box 7530 AX is provided free to new customers signing up for 500Mbps+ speed Full Fibre broadband packages on a 12-month or longer contract.
The FRITZ!Box 7530 (non-AX version) is provided free to new broadband customers taking a 12-month or longer contract for lower speed tiers.
The main difference between the two models is:
The FRITZ!Box 7530 AX uses Wi-Fi 6 (ax) technology and is backwards compatible.
The FRITZ!Box 7530 uses Wi-Fi 5 (ac) technology.
Both routers offer excellent features like parental controls, guest access, VoIP functionality, and strong security measures. The 7530 AX model is more advanced, supporting higher Wi-Fi speeds up to 1800Mbps + 600Mbps.
Existing Zen broadband customers looking to upgrade their router can purchase either model at a discounted price.

One of the reference links was to https://www.zen.co.uk/broadband/broadband-router/

The AI is incorrect.
Every Zen full fibre product page says it comes with their fastest WiFi6 router.
Confirmed in a thread in the Zen section recently that all full fibre packages come with the 7530AX

Edited by j0hn83 (Thu 11-Jul-24 18:41:24)

I joined the ZEN FTTC Superfast package in April and got a new WiFi 6 7530 AX. As I have the cheapest package that ZEN sell they regard the 730AX as the base product.

The web site confirmed what I would get before I completed my order.

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

I asked Perplexity.ai and got a straight answer.

AI is not a search engine. AI output is not rooted in facts. Generative AI just makes up text that sounds plausible - the clue is in the name.

How about this for a sample of ChatGPT output:

"Yes, light is much faster than mobile signals. Light travels at a speed of approximately 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum, while mobile signals travel at a much slower speed through the air, usually in the range of a few hundred meters per second to a few kilometers per second, depending on the type of signal and the frequency used.

For example, the speed of electromagnetic waves used in mobile communication networks, such as those used for cell phones and Wi-Fi, is typically in the range of 3 x 10^8 to 3 x 10^9 meters per second. This is significantly slower than the speed of light and is due to various factors, such as the frequency of the signal and the properties of the medium it travels through.

While the speed of mobile signals is fast enough for most everyday uses, it is still much slower than the speed of light. This is why information sent via light, such as through fiber optic cables, can be transmitted much faster than information sent wirelessly through mobile networks."

Ot try this, where ChatGPT told a journalist that he was dead and made fake links to his obituary: https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/02/chatgpt_consi...

Or where an AI bot for an airline made up a plausible-sounding refund policy, but was not actually company policy: https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/15/air_canada_ch...

In reply to a post by candlerb:

AI is not a search engine. AI output is not rooted in facts. Generative AI just makes up text that sounds plausible - the clue is in the name.

1000% this. general purpose internet Generative AI is fundamentally flawed if you are looking for facts. In some specific cases where the AI tool has ONLY been trained on specific data (e.g. a chatbot for insurance products) it can work well as the scope is extremely limited.

I think the sentance in Wikipedia is a good description:
"Generative AI models learn the patterns and structure of their input training data and then generate new data that has similar characteristics."

Sadly, this is not Google, or even 2001's HAL, or the Computer from StarTrek.

I am a Fritz!Box fan (10+ years). FWiW, I think that the 7530 series is now some outdated. I have used the 4060 router on my FTTP connection for 2 years with a 2.5Gpbs WAN connection.

There is the nearly released 7690 and soon to be released 7590 Pro which offer 2.5Gbps connections; 2.5Gbps LAN and wifi 7.

Thanks for all the answers, so much to unpack here.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

The AI is incorrect.

The AI is reporting what Zen say. If the AI is incorrect it is because the Zen website is. You are correct, thanks for pointing out the product pages do say all FTTP comes with WiFi 6. I had missed that. But other Zen pages say other things...

In reply to a post by chris52:

I joined the ZEN FTTC Superfast package in April and got a new WiFi 6 7530 AX. As I have the cheapest package that ZEN sell they regard the 730AX as the base product.

Thank you, exactly the firsthand information I was looking for.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

AI is not a search engine.

Perplexity AI is not a traditional search engine in the same way that Google or Bing are. Instead, it's more accurately described as an AI-powered information discovery and question-answering platform.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

1000% this. general purpose internet Generative AI is fundamentally flawed if you are looking for facts.

Yes but I used Perplexity which is not just another generative AI tool.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Sadly, this is not Google

No, its not Google. But it does remind me of the early days of Google when Google was a search engine, not a advertising platform. Perplexity is another tool and one I use for quickly cutting through the crud when looking for a specific answer. I really don't want to have to wade through pages of poor results then a selection of clickbate sites to find - or not - the answer to my question.

But lets ask Google none the less, see if Perplexity is as wrong as people here seem to think.

The answer I got from Perplexity (see above) was that Zen provide a 7530 AX only with the 500 and 1Gig packages. What does Google say? The first result is a Zen page. And what do you know its the exact same page Perplexity referenced which says Zen provide different routers on different packages. So the initial result is the same. Both Perplexity and Google provide the [wrong] answer based on the same information from the same definitive source. The second result I got was a link to Which?, which is usless as you need to subscribe to get the actual information. The third references this actual thread, so at the time of looking not a helpful result.

I'm a very cynical person, I take nothing at face value. I never research without finding corroboration. I'll look at two or three results from a traditional search engine and the same is true of Perplexity. References are provided by Perplexity so that's easy to do. And the format of the results, those the natural language model provide, make finding the information faster and easier.

There are some search I'll never use Google or Bing for again. I can never remember how to make a screen grab on a Mac. Perplexity just tells me. Google send me to different websites some of which have instructions somewhere amongst the reams of text and adverts.

Anyway, thanks to those of you who provided helpful answers to the original question.

As alternative to Google as it gets more and more tied up with marketing promotion and (in the US today) AI responses try DuckDuckGo.com or startpage.com

Purplexity and ChatGPT and Copilot (from MS) are interpreteing and changing what they read before they send back to you. Search engines do not.

Use them all together, great, don't just rely on AI output as fact.