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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 21-May-11 21:53:57
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Re: Gaming ISP that doesn't suck


[re: mrnelster] [link to this post]
 
Thank you mrnelster for that input, that has helped a lot.

It makes me not want to order FTTC now, in all honesty, because I have read this from BT Infinity users, and IDNet, and now you with Aquiss... I was looking at AAISP but maybe its just best to go with BE Unlimited.

I'm hoping that I can get Primus' line rental, since it's only £6.79/month. I will find out tomorrow if they can do a line take-over as the current tenant will be moving out soon and taking his number with him, I'm not sure how the process works exactly but there shouldn't need to be a new line installation, it's not like the place is 200 years old and doesn't have a telephone line.

But if Bethere can install a line+internet together in the same day, that'd be awesome and I might go with that just because we're impatient smile
Standard User time2die
(knowledge is power) Sun 22-May-11 00:53:25
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Can i make a suggestion mrnelster because i know you love gaming like me and quite a few others on these forums and after reading your post i may have the solution to your problem.

If as your post suggest you are using a wireless connection for your playstation gaming [like i was a few years back] then go buy some decent homeplugs and hey presto i bet this has a good chance of solving your gaming problems.

I am using some of THESE and its probably the best gaming investment i have ever bought and its just like been next to the router with a direct feed.

I am not going to say it will solve your problems but they have to be worth checking out.
Standard User nredwood
(knowledge is power) Sun 22-May-11 01:06:13
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It is true

Due to the way the BE Value profile is configured, it is not possible to have fastpath / gaming mode on BE Value

You can ring support to enable a 3db SNR profile, but definitely not fastpath / gaming mode - it is just not technically possible. It is only possible on BE Unlimited or BE Pro and not possible at all on any O2 packages

Some routers may display fastpath, but this is always due to a bug.
The upstream is always fastpath by default

And yes, dynamic IP's are very sticky on BE, but some of us who have been on BE a long time remember when there were significant issues with BE's DHCP servers which made dynamic more unreliable. Only happens rarely these days, but I'd still prefer to have a trully static IP

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 22-May-11 01:58:45
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I beg to differ as i am on be value AND have fastpath enabled. I just asked their support agent when he phoned me after i migrated to BE, he ran ping tests to see if it was worth it being on and i got better pings and no speed loss with it on so he left it on and said if i had issues with line stability to just phone up and they'll sort it out.

Theres i cant remember where i read it i think it was the BE forums about just asking the support agents and they'll do it.
Standard User aquiss
(experienced) Sun 22-May-11 09:55:24
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Re: Gaming ISP that doesn't suck


[re: mrnelster] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by mrnelster:
During the day the speed has also been dropping from almost 38 down and 8.5 up, to 4 down and 2.5 up. This is definitely contention on the Entanet side of things.


Can I ask why you have not raised this with us? I don't want customers sitting on problems if we can help. We have hundreds of customers on FTTC, and apart from from 2 customers who have speeds at levels not acceptable to our high standards, we have not got any other reported cases on file.

With your upstream also dropping, which is very unusual, this sounds more than just contention across Entanet's network. We always see Upstream speeds remaining constant, even if downstream is coming under some loads. I would therefore have to disagree with your "definitely" position on this, but I am aware of the overall position this side.

In terms of gaming, the network is top notch. We get nothing but high praise from gamers.

Edited by aquiss (Sun 22-May-11 10:10:00)

Standard User mrnelster
(committed) Sun 22-May-11 10:50:12
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Re: Gaming ISP that doesn't suck


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Can I ask why you have not raised this with us? I don't want customers sitting on problems if we can help. We have hundreds of customers on FTTC, and apart from from 2 customers who have speeds at levels not acceptable to our high standards, we have not got any other reported cases on file.

I haven't had time Martin. I will do when I have the time.

If you re read my post I pointed out that the downloads are blisteringly fast. Gaming however is all about latency. As you can see I am being responsible and pointing out all of the possible problems that I want to eliminate before I blame my ISP. I am simply saying that I cannot recommend either way for gaming until I know what is causing my problem.

That said, it is Entanet after all. And I have read enough about latency issues with them not to be complacent.
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Knowing how it works is completely different to understanding how it works.

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Standard User mrnelster
(committed) Sun 22-May-11 10:57:54
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Thanks T2D. I will grab a new long patch lead today and see how it goes with that first. I have thought about these adaptors but I want to check out the netgear router properly before I buy anything else of theirs.

The router is in the same roomas the PS3, about 15 feet away. That's why I don't think it is an out and out wireless problem. I have a new Lynksys cable router I bought in a clearance that I will try first.

There is also the DMZ method, but that is the least favoured option really, especially after the recent Sony episode. wink
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Knowing how it works is completely different to understanding how it works.

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Standard User NilSatisOptimum
(regular) Sun 22-May-11 11:14:05
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Re: Gaming ISP that doesn't suck


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In reply to a post by time2die:
Can i make a suggestion. If as your post suggest you are using a wireless connection for your playstation gaming [like i was a few years back] then go buy some decent homeplugs and hey presto i bet this has a good chance of solving your gaming problems.

I am not going to say it will solve your problems but they have to be worth checking out.


The very best of suggestions!

My views are my experiences.
Standard User mrnelster
(committed) Sun 22-May-11 19:58:44
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Tried wired connection today mate. Speed doubled on the PS3 test for upload and download. However it still read higher on the PC and with a lower ping.

The gaming on BOps was still dire though. If you check my BQM below, you will see the blue spike between 3 and 4pm. That's exactly when I was playing. I am going to swap the router next. The thing is, if the router was to blame it wouldn't show such a good connection during the early hours and then instantly decline at 9am even when nothing is connected.

Knowing how it works is completely different to understanding how it works.

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Standard User mrnelster
(committed) Sun 22-May-11 20:12:08
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With my apparent connection you would expect me to get host quite often wouldn't you?

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/01/17/video-shows-shocki...

So when it picks me as host, why does it actually get worse?
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Knowing how it works is completely different to understanding how it works.

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FTTC - Aquiss Business 45
37.7Mbps Downstream
8.45Mbps Upstream
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