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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 24-May-15 15:52:32
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Re: G.INP


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In reply to a post by David_W:
If you are interested in full G.INP support, it's probably best to get a version 3B HG612 with the white PSU from a well known auction site (don't pay much more than around £25), then install the unlocked B030SP08 firmware.


I would only do this if the OP knows their cabinet is Huawei. If the cabinet is ECI then its likely not yet G.INP enabled.

plusnet unlimited fibre 80/20 product - Installed 2 June 14 - April Sync 57 / 11 with G.INP
16 years UK broadband (Since 1999 ntl:cable trial), Asus RT-AC68U & HG612 - BQM - Speedtest
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 24-May-15 16:46:41
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Re: G.INP


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In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by David_W:
If you are interested in full G.INP support, it's probably best to get a version 3B HG612 with the white PSU from a well known auction site (don't pay much more than around £25), then install the unlocked B030SP08 firmware.


I would only do this if the OP knows their cabinet is Huawei. If the cabinet is ECI then its likely not yet G.INP enabled.


I only got the BTOR's ECI modem working with a separate Plusnet's TG-582n Router! As I only been made aware today that there are separate BT's ECI and Hawaii only cabinets, but not mixed and matched inside the cabinet, may exist. Does it imply that I am currently connected to a BTOR ECI cabinet, and consequently buying another Hawaii modem for myself may be just a waste of time and money??
Thanks

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 24-May-15 17:26:02
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Re: G.INP


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In reply to a post by OCdragon:
I only got the BTOR's ECI modem working with a separate Plusnet's TG-582n Router! As I only been made aware today that there are separate BT's ECI and Hawaii only cabinets, but not mixed and matched inside the cabinet, may exist. Does it imply that I am currently connected to a BTOR ECI cabinet, and consequently buying another Hawaii modem for myself may be just a waste of time and money??

There are no guarantees, unless you can find out your cabinet number from the BT wholesale checker and take a photo of the cabinet and others here can confirm.

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16 years UK broadband (Since 1999 ntl:cable trial), Asus RT-AC68U & HG612 - BQM - Speedtest


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 24-May-15 17:27:45
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Re: G.INP


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No.

You need to put your phone number into the normal BT Wholesale checker and the line above the estimates table will tell you your phone cabinet number.

Then go and find it. The estimated FTTC speeds will give us some idea of its distance from you.

Near to it will be the FTTC cabinet. Compare how that looks with the three on this page. (The two 128s should say 96).

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 24-May-15 17:57:52
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Re: G.INP


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Would ECI Modem/chipset interworking OK with Hauwaii chipset in BTOR linecards in their FTTC cabinets without problems? Secondary would G.INP a added feature of Hauwaii Chipset only, not for ECI??
I'm still a bit confusing with that as I thought G.INP is part of the upgraded "Internation Standards" and as such should be supprted by both "upgraded" design versions of both ECI and Hauwaii chipsets. But again this G.INP feature could be chipset design versions dependent???
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 25-May-15 09:40:23
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Re: G.INP


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In reply to a post by tommy45:
The B030SP06 version that i use also works with G.inp



Just curious as to why you haven't updated to SP08?

There have been a number of firmware/software improvements since SP06 that you might not be able to take advantage of. e.g. extra DS bitloading tones available (if your connection is capable of using them)


What's the output from xdslcmd info --pbParams with SP06?

It is included within every snapshot Plink log.

This is mine (SP08):-

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xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY statusStatus: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 1Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 5055 Kbps, Downstream rate = 21376 KbpsBearer: 0, Upstream rate = 5000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 21432 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 KbpsDiscovery Phase (Initial) Band Plan
US: (7,32) (871,1205) (1972,2782) DS: (33,859) (1216,1961) (2793,3970) 
Medley Phase (Final) Band PlanUS: (7,32) (871,1204) 
DS: (33,859) (1216,1662)           VDSL Port Details               Upstream                Downstream
Attainable Net Data Rate:            5055 kbps              21376 kbpsActual Aggregate Tx Power:             6.9 dBm               12.5 dBm
 =========================================================================================  VDSL Band Status       U0      U1      U2      U3      U4      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  8.2     54.5     N/A     N/A     N/A    21.9    67.0     N/A   Signal Attenuation(dB):  8.2     53.9     N/A     N/A     N/A    30.9    66.8     N/A   
        SNR Margin(dB):  5.7     6.0      N/A     N/A     N/A    6.3     6.3      N/A            TX Power(dBm):  0.1     5.9      N/A     N/A     N/A    11.5    5.6      N/A   
.



I'm 1100m or so from the cabinet, which means attenuation is too high & SNR is too weak to use the higher frequency tones as can be seen from the Medley Phase band plan:-

Medley Phase (Final) Band PlanUS: (7,32) (871,1204)
DS: (33,859) (1216,1662)

Edited by deleted (Mon 25-May-15 09:41:06)

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