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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Dec-07 14:14:08
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Re: S=P=A=M ???


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I would also imagine that anything remotely confidential like that would not be entrusted to an email any how !

Mind you we don't want to return to the dark ages where anything, like ESSEX, was blocked just because it had SEX in it !

Dave.
Standard User kitz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Dec-07 15:00:56
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>> it makes me feel better bouncing them


I HATE the friggin Bounce feature. Please dont use it.

Spammers hardly - if ever - ever use a real email address and they are normally hijacked addresses. All you do is end up spamming some innocent yourself.

Ive seen domains became a target.... and for several days bounce mails can become a nightmare and way more of a dam problem than the PN spam is in the first place.
You think the PN spam is bad??
Then try being on the other end of a hijacked mail address and getting bounces

Oh I know.... I could bounce those back too and we could play everlasting cyberspam ping-pong.

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www.kitz.co.uk.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Dec-07 15:12:45
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Alright, you've convinced me, I have already gone into my Spam settings and unticked the Bounce option, but if I can't bounce them, then I need to hit someone or something very hard to releive the frustration.

Any suggestions ???


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Dec-07 15:18:59
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"I HATE the friggin Bounce feature."

Can

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Standard User jelv
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 05-Dec-07 20:16:35
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I think that when the bounce feature is on it should cc a copy of the bounce to yourself for your own records. That might teach the tw.ts that use it to turn it off!

jelv

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Previously Compuserve, BT & LineOne Dialup
Standard User Tetricus
(newbie) Fri 14-Dec-07 18:42:55
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Like DodgyDave, I have noticed a huge increase in "Spam" over the last few weeks, even with the Plusnet spam filter in operation.

I am also finding that I am having to check through the spam folder, as genuine emails (from abroad) are being blocked.
Is it possible to specify email address's that I don't want blocked ?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 14-Dec-07 19:10:00
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Not yet Tetricus, but that's one of the things we're hoping to introduce with the new Postini platform next year. Having said that, the software we're using at the moment to detect spam (Dspam) will probably be removed once better alternatives have bedded in.

Rgds,
Standard User Tetricus
(newbie) Fri 14-Dec-07 20:48:14
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Thanks for that Bob
Standard User lorisarvendu
(experienced) Sun 16-Dec-07 11:13:56
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I have to say that on the rare occasion I dip into a discussion about Spam, I am am constantly irritated by the ISP's comments. They seem to be along the lines of "this is the state of the internet today, and unfortunately we all have to live with it"

Well I'm afraid I'm having difficulty agreeing with this. For the following reason.

I have 5 email accounts:

My work account (a fairly public domain - ntu.ac.uk) gets very little spam, maybe 5 a week. This may be down to my company's spam filter, and since I'm in the IT department I do know that our mail servers reject 800,000 spam mails a day (yes, a day) out of a million, for an organisation of perhaps 10,000 employees. I've had this account for 10 years.

My Hotmail account gets no spam. None. Not a sausage. Admittedly I don't use it very much, but still...it's Hotmail, it should get some. I've had this account for 10 years.

Mail.com. This is my web-based spam trap. Any web page that wants an email address for info, or for registration, goes here. My amazon account feeds here, as does ebay. I probably get about 5-10 mails a day in total, of which only about half is unsolicited spam. I've had this account the longest - since 1996 when it was iname.com

Gmail - I've had this one only about 2 years, and I only ever use it to chat to one person. No spam.

F9 - I've had this account for about 2 years. Today I cleared out about 20 spam mails. I never used to get ANY spam to this account. This is important, so I'll repeat it. I used to get NO SPAM to my F9 account. Now I get loads.

So what's the difference between my F9 account and all the others? Well nothing really. I don't use it for business (that's what I use my webmail account Mail.com for), I only ever contact a few friends through it, and yet it's suddenly a spam magnet.

I'll tell you what the difference was. This is a mail address that was hacked into 6 months ago, because PN's mail servers were compromised. That's when I started getting spam on an account I've never had it on before.

So please F9/PN. Stop spouting the same old rhetoric about how we should be careful who we send mails to, and spam is a fact of life now. Just say "our mail servers were hacked, and all your addresses ended up on the internet." That's the reason. Don't treat us like idiots.

I am seriously considering not using my F9 mail address for anything anymore now. Because only a very few of my friends & relatives use it, I just seem to be logging on to download spam nowadays.

Oh, and it's obvious from the nature of the mails that they are all from the same source, which means they've originated from the same copy of the mailing list - the one that was nicked from your mail servers earlier this year.

How about a change of mail address? Could you do that? That would stop it.

- Annoyed Dave

Standard User jelv
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 16-Dec-07 13:53:46
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Plusnet are most definitely doing something about the current spam problems:
http://community.plus.net/comms/2007/11/12/wanted-postini-anti-spam-trialists/

You say that at work your mail servers are rejecting 800,000 emails a day. Plusnet have signed up with Postini who are rejecting 50-70% of emails offered for the people who have signed up for the trials - but Plusnet have the settings at the lowest, least aggressive level.. But there are some users who are moaning because they don't like the idea of Plusnet rejecting any of their mail - they think they want all mail addressed to them to be delivered (silly fools!). Whatever they do Plusnet can't please everybody.

The results I'm seeing from the trial are very, very encouraging - the volume of spam getting through has dropped dramatically - although the tagging of what does get through seems to be going in the wrong direction at the moment - but that is nothing to do with Postini as it is still done by DSPAM (that will probably change in the new year).

If you haven't signed up for the trials I suggest you give it a go.


jelv

Plusnet ADSL PAYG Jan 2004 -
Plusnet Dialup Nov 2001 to Jan 2004
Previously Compuserve, BT & LineOne Dialup
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