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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 29-Aug-11 15:51:24
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In reply to a post by m0aur:
We were not switched on till 11.00am Thursday & we used 692.75 from our allowance that day.
Something very odd going on if that did not include any video or downloads.

Exactly 3 days since switch on. Not a single minute of video or online TV watched yet. Just browsing, email and a few speed tests. So far 2.85GB used peak and Internet radios overnight have used 1.47MB off peak. Nearly 1GB a day and nearly 1.5GB all in. I really cannot see 60GB as a realistic allowance, when a 128kbps radio stream will use 40GB a month.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 29-Aug-11 16:07:21
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Daft question, but are you sure the internet radios stop streaming when switched off? Where is the streaming s/w running?

Certainly at one time iPlayer would continue to stream even when nothing was being watched on the PC.

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My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.

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(deleted) Mon 29-Aug-11 16:24:27
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Daft question, but are you sure the internet radios stop streaming when switched off? Where is the streaming s/w running?

Certainly at one time iPlayer would continue to stream even when nothing was being watched on the PC.

Wi-Fi radios hook straight to the streaming URL, no servers or PC needed. Like most things in this silly green world, they don't even keep network connection in standby and in any case have been in Band 2 FM mode during the day since switchover. All of which is insignificant compared to the usage when we get back to watching online sport or movies.
The station we have streaming overnight is a 128kbps stream which will use 50MB per hour, which would equate to 800MB over the 16 daily peak hours if it was streaming continuously. This has been about out total peak use, which would mean everything else has used virtually nothing.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 29-Aug-11 16:38:44
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Sorry, I didn't put the question very well.

If the server is streaming to you, (perhaps a higher bandwidth channel), and you ignore the data - ie by turning the radio(s) off without sending a "Stop" message - then Plusnet routers will count the traffic.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 29-Aug-11 16:40:48
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Re the rest using virtually nothing, you can have two PCs browsing, plus email and a few speed tests in less than 3GB per month.

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(deleted) Mon 29-Aug-11 17:52:04
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Sorry, I didn't put the question very well.

If the server is streaming to you, (perhaps a higher bandwidth channel), and you ignore the data - ie by turning the radio(s) off without sending a "Stop" message - then Plusnet routers will count the traffic.

I have had my Belkin N1 Vision router in place for a while over the last couple of days. That shows download and upload speed and usage over the last 24 hours or whatever for every network device. Are you saying Plusnet will continue to count traffic even when it is not being used? After many years of using Wi-Fi radios on many portals, I have never found one where you were able to send a stop message, just like a PC, shut them off and they stop streaming.

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Standard User adslmax
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 29-Aug-11 18:20:44
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Still happy with this speed overall: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1456050153.png from 14000K ip profile rate.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 29-Aug-11 18:46:22
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Out of my depth at this point I'm afraid.

The nearest I can get to what can happen was on Newnet, where if you just unplugged a router, so it didn't send a "dying gasp" signal which it should when switched off, then the PPP session was not closed. As a result any things like hackers probing for open ports and suchlike generated traffic through the Newnet routers to at least the exchange DSLAM. Many of us found a very small amount of traffic being recorded, in the order of 0.01-0.09Mbps per hour.

So I was extrapolating from that to wonder if Internet Radio may do the same, but in significant volumes.

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Standard User kasg
(committed) Mon 29-Aug-11 20:14:43
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I don't think anyone's asked yet, but are you sure your wireless is secure? As RobertoS said, you should barely be using that much in a month, let alone three days.

Kevin

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 29-Aug-11 23:48:44
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I don't think anyone's asked yet, but are you sure your wireless is secure? As RobertoS said, you should barely be using that much in a month, let alone three days.

I don't think I will answer that. Usage has slowed down this evening, but as the changeover to PN BB last Thursday was a major Cock-up, which has left me hooked to someone Else's phone number, I can't really be sure what is going on or what is being metered till I get back on my number, but unfortunately whoever your supplier, many of us are still at the mercy of Openreach.
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