In reply to a post by jpilson:

In reply to a post by Routefinder:

well this thread on the community forum does rather put AFAIK a different complexion on the rapdity of the changes.

http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1027...

Or have I misunderstood what was being discussed & answered by Adam? It would potentially be a big letdown for all PlusNet users on the 21CN system if the changes will stil take up to 72 hours to recognise increases in sync and hence actual speed

What you have to remember is that our systems haven't changed when it comes to picking up a new BT profile. So, in the past you might have to first of all wait up to 120 hours for your BT profile to change and then another 12 hours for our system to pick up the report, so things are much much better than they were. Also, if it's a big jump and you can't/don't want to wait for our system to pick it up, you can always call/rise a ticket/ask on the forum for this to be done manually.

Jojo

Ah! the devil in the details :lol:

The BT system IP Profile falls & rises under 21CN very quickly (immmediately???) but the PlusNet system still takes approx 12 hours to pick up the changes especially affecting the upward ones where users have seen an increase in sync following a prior reduction. As you say an overall improvement by going 21CN but not "the close to perfection" which would be the cream on top

Just hope you are ready for the raft of more savvy users raising tickets to get the their speeds back up to their 'previous' level(s)???

Many thanks again and I look forward to the switch and what benefits it is intended/expected to give me.

In reply to a post by Routefinder:

Just hope you are ready for the raft of more savvy users raising tickets to get the their speeds back up to their 'previous' level(s)???

I doubt they would be any more frequent than before

Have you seen this topic on the Community forums? http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1027...

In reply to a post by jpilson:

In reply to a post by Routefinder:

Just hope you are ready for the raft of more savvy users raising tickets to get the their speeds back up to their 'previous' level(s)???

I doubt they would be any more frequent than before

Optimist

In reply to a post by jelv:

Have you seen this topic on the Community forums? http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1027...

Hi Jelv

That is the one I linked to and made ref to above

Well the switch over happened at approx middya today (28th Feb)

The sync is now 4256 though this is the "training" peried the measured speed still shows as 2700 odd

Oddly the Router still shows DSL Type as G.992.1 annex A still on plain vanilla Max ADSL so I wonder as the sync speed reflects ADSL2+ when will I see G.992.5 or even if I have been put on ADSL2 ths would be AFAIK type G.992.3

Incidently the remote Vendor ID is IFTN which according to Kitz is Infineon

So roll on the training period because on the happy surmise the sync holds at this level the measured speed will be well up & a great improvement But when am I likely to see the DSL Type update, any ideas???

From what I remember if the expected sync is less than about 4000kbps the provisioning process puts you on 21CN ADSL1
This gives you the benefit of the 88.2% profile system without the aggressive line management of ADSL2

Edited by deleted (Tue 28-Feb-12 21:43:28)

In reply to a post by Oldjim:

From what I remember if the expected sync is less than about 4000kbps the provisioning process puts you on 21CN ADSL1
This gives you the benefit of the 88.2% profile system without the aggressive line management of ADSL2

Grrrr!
I think you mean ADSL2+? ADSL2 is not the same thing at all. In this context it matters.

Can we see the full line stats now please?

As I understand it the only difference between ADSL2 and ADSL2+ is that ADSL2+ utilises the higher frequency band but given the line length this attenuates to the point of uselessness.
If the line is provisioned on ADSL2+ I believe that the automatic systems downgrade it to ADSL2 where appropriate
Also the aggressive line management occurs on both ADSL2 and ADSL2+ (banding for example) but not on ADSL1
A sync of 4256kbps implies an attenuation in excess of 51dB (I have presently got s sync of 4928kbps with a 50dB attenuation with nothing above about 980kHz and virtually nothing above 800kHz

Edited by deleted (Tue 28-Feb-12 22:24:49)