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Please see this screen grab of the router page

Router line stats page

Before the switchover these were different

Output Power up/down ~ 11.5/19.0

Line Attenuation up/down ~ 31.5/54.0

SN Margin up/down ~ 20.0/5.5

NB. I think there is probably the usual 10-day training now running, which doesn't affect your speeds but does set the important Fault Threshold Rate. So do not take any of the actions I describe below until the end of that .

Interesting that both attenuations have gone down .

You may be best staying as you are, but looking at those figures I think you could benefit by trying ADSL2 (G.993.2), simply because of the higher upload that should not affect the download.

The download is almost the highest expected on that attenuation, whichever of the three protocols are used.

Does your router let you choose what protocols to try to use? Most of the ones I know of do. If it does, I suggest that you ask Plusnet for an ADSL2+ setting, with uncapped upstream, and see what happens for a couple of days. Then reduce the ones to use to ADSL2 and ADSL, (it needs the ADSL to fall back to at bad noise times), and compare.

With ADSL2+ there is a possibility the attenuation would be around 56dB, in which case error rates would increase and connection speed be slightly lower - just under 4Mbps. With ADSL2 you should get the current sync with the higher upstream.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

NB. I think there is probably the usual 10-day training now running, which doesn't affect your speeds but does set the important Fault Threshold Rate. So do not take any of the actions I describe below until the end of that .

Interesting that both attenuations have gone down .

You may be best staying as you are, but looking at those figures I think you could benefit by trying ADSL2 (G.993.2), simply because of the higher upload that should not affect the download.

The download is almost the highest expected on that attenuation, whichever of the three protocols are used.

Does your router let you choose what protocols to try to use? Most of the ones I know of do. If it does, I suggest that you ask Plusnet for an ADSL2+ setting, with uncapped upstream, and see what happens for a couple of days. Then reduce the ones to use to ADSL2 and ADSL, (it needs the ADSL to fall back to at bad noise times), and compare.

With ADSL2+ there is a possibility the attenuation would be around 56dB, in which case error rates would increase and connection speed be slightly lower - just under 4Mbps. With ADSL2 you should get the current sync with the higher upstream.

Good morning

The router is the Thomson TG585 v7 and as far as I can tell there is no control over the DSL type hence the reason I was surprised it was 'reporting' the plain ADSL "type".

I asked PS CSC for their take on this and they said their systen had not updated yet so as at 04:50 hrs this morning this was apparently adjusted and quote "so you should start to see some speed improvements and a change to the GMT with the next connection drop." This I surmise refers the the training protocols dropping and resetting? However what is GMT???

At ths stage I am leaving well alone for the training to do its job???

Oh, and for the life of me cannot recall the link to check my profile on PlusNet???

TIA for your insight

And Good Morning to you, and thanks for the first chuckle of the day! "so you should start to see some speed improvements and a change to the GMT with the next connection drop".

G.DMT is another name for G.992.1. So a change away from it perhaps was meant .

As for the "next connection drop", is one expected? Probably yes, as for the protocol to be changed the exchange end will be forcing a reconnection. Just a wierd wording.

I've just been browsing for 585v7 manuals online - not a fruitful search. Overrun by PN/MAAF setup guides that aren't any use. I'm sure the 585 does have that facility, but I believe it's a PN-modified firmware they issue it with, so may have been disabled. I may look again later.

The rest of my post, about comparing ADSL2+ and ADSL2 applies though, if you can get them to do it. Good luck.

https://portal.plus.net/my.html?action=data_transfer...

Thanks for the link reminder ~ it says 3Mb and this was the same as I had under ADSL Max so I have asked what was changed???

It takes a while for the PN copy IP Profile to catch up. Unfortunately it is probably limiting yoru speed to that.

I would expect a BT Performance Test to show an IP Profile of around 3.75Mbps, so the PN one should change in time to 3.7Mbps.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

It takes a while for the PN copy IP Profile to catch up. Unfortunately it is probably limiting yoru speed to that.

I would expect a BT Performance Test to show an IP Profile of around 3.75Mbps, so the PN one should change in time to 3.7Mbps.

Well spot on the BT speed tester does indded say 3.75Mbps

Edit ~ the BT tester has update the measured speed slightly form 2.26 this morning to 2.9 now and the TBB tester shows this

Edited by deleted (Wed 29-Feb-12 18:22:42)

Might be cheating (sorry if you were waiting to see when the profile on our side was updated) but I've now changed it to 3.7 on our side manuallly. Hope it improves the connection for you, Routefinder.

In reply to a post by orbrey:

Might be cheating (sorry if you were waiting to see when the profile on our side was updated) but I've now changed it to 3.7 on our side manuallly. Hope it improves the connection for you, Routefinder.

Hi Matt

I checked this this morning and noticed the update..................and the nice uplift in measured speed to 3.1Mbps and it is still that speed this evening. So already better compared to between 2.2 to 2.8Mbps under Max ADSL.

TBB result


If once the training period is over >3.1Mbps is the new actual speed then the "promise" that ADSL2+ offered as an improvement though modest over Max ADSL will I hope have been met

I will PM a little feedback shortly.



Edit ~ but why does my Router still report the DSL type as G.992.1 annex A and not G.992.5 that would be applicable to ADSL2+ service connection???

Edited by deleted (Thu 01-Mar-12 22:20:57)