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The above screenshot indicates a lot of errors on my line. So are you saying there are no HEC or CRC errors when interleaving is off?
Correct Sir.
There are very few errors generated over time compared to the amount of errors there is now.
See - http://puu.sh/CAFh
http://www.pingtest.net/result/65036503.png
The amount of errors the openreach modem is displaying if there was that many errors, I would notice frequent disconnections.
Same exact issue with BT how ever the line never had disconnections 30-90 days average sync time with full speeds 24/7 apart from constant P2P capping. Never really use P2P anyway. would use over 360GB transfer each month from netflix/lovefilm and Sky Anytime. Including remote server administration.
Please take this into consideration how is Plusnet cheap. Might be for some users who are more light users but for myself. The broadband is more expensive in general my bill was more expensive due to paying £16 each month for anytime calls with BT but they removed that fee making it cheaper then Plus. Now I'm having to pay for extra usage. So how is Plus cheaper ?
Edited by deleted (Thu 21-Jun-12 17:54:23)
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I'm paying more with PlusNET because of the BW overage charges, I used around 440GB per month with BT going onto a 120GB per month plan is costing me a lot more then I was with BT.
Well of course it would, so why on earth did you move to Plusnet?
Kevin
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I'm paying more with PlusNET because of the BW overage charges, I used around 440GB per month with BT going onto a 120GB per month plan is costing me a lot more then I was with BT.
Well of course it would, so why on earth did you move to Plusnet?
I was not fully aware of the charge per GB when purchasing from them.
Plus I was getting annoyed from other people in our house hold about paying 50quid a month for phone and broadband. BT even offered to lower the price but I refused as they always love messing up Orders same as Plus.
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The error counts as shown in the Huawei HG612 modem's GUI appear to be incorrectly reported.
This appears to be a "bug" in the modem's original firmware.
More accurate & meaningful error reports can be obtained via a telnet session.
Useful data is obtained from these commands:-
xdslcmd info --pbParams - shows speeds, SNRM, attenuation per frequency band etc.
xdslcmd info --stats - shows many other settings & error counts in the format RSCorr & RSUnCorr etc. (Corrected & Uncorrected), error seconds serious error seconds etc. etc. etc.
The combination of all those stats is what causes DLM to determine what speeds you can have & whether Interleaving, Impulse Noise Protection & delay are turned on or off & at what levels/depths.
Also, if you are a Windows user & can be bothered to obtain factual statistics, you could run the graphing scripts to generate your own graphs and data logs as "evidence".
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Plusnet is very often not cheaper as stated in those silly adverts. Like all clever marketing these days, there is always the small print. In the case of Plusnet, their claim applies to standalone broadband only, and then it only works out cheaper on a market 2 or 3 exchange for a limited use product with throttling and shaping. When comparing them with B.T. you should consider they have been taken over by B.T. so no longer are they allowed to openly offer unlimited or packages that severely undercut their parent company.
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The error counts as shown in the Huawei HG612 modem's GUI appear to be incorrectly reported.
This appears to be a "bug" in the modem's original firmware.
More accurate & meaningful error reports can be obtained via a telnet session.
Useful data is obtained from these commands:-
xdslcmd info --pbParams - shows speeds, SNRM, attenuation per frequency band etc.
xdslcmd info --stats - shows many other settings & error counts in the format RSCorr & RSUnCorr etc. (Corrected & Uncorrected), error seconds serious error seconds etc. etc. etc.
The combination of all those stats is what causes DLM to determine what speeds you can have & whether Interleaving, Impulse Noise Protection & delay are turned on or off & at what levels/depths.
Also, if you are a Windows user & can be bothered to obtain factual statistics, you could run the graphing scripts to generate your own graphs and data logs as "evidence".
Thought the reports was correctly invalid so here you go.
http://pastie.org/4128177
Full Stats.
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Thought the reports was correctly invalid.
Not quite sure what that means.
Your stats are very similar to mine (very slightly worse).
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xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY statusStatus: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0Max: Upstream rate = 4884 Kbps, Downstream rate = 33736 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 4902 Kbps, Downstream rate = 28629 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band PlanUS: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3959) Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (868,1207) DS: (32,859) (1216,1963)
VDSL Port Details Upstream DownstreamAttainable Net Data Rate: 4884 kbps 33736 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power: 6.3 dBm 12.6 dBm============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3 Line Attenuation(dB): 8.3 54.8 84.3 N/A 21.9 64.6 0.1
Signal Attenuation(dB): 9.2 54.1 N/A N/A 21.9 64.6 N/A SNR Margin(dB): 6.1 6.1 N/A N/A 6.3 6.4 N/A
TX Power(dBm): -4.6 5.9 N/A N/A 11.5 6.0 N/A |
Basically your connection's attenuation is too high to achieve a faster/more stable connection.
You have no spare SNRM to speak of, so your connection is currently operating at its maximum capability.
I would guesstimate you are therefore around 1km from the cabinet (or there is quite a serious physical issue somewhere on your connection).
Whenever DLM has been reset on my connection (following engineer repair works), Interleaving has remained OFF for a few days.
Ultimately it always gets automatically switched back on again though, due to various errors accumulating due to the distance from the cabinet & susceptibility to noise interference.
Our high attenuation & low SNRM also means we cannot actually use any of the higher frequency band plan tones that were discovered during initialisation from a reboot or resync.
Does your connection resync regularly?
Bear in mind that Plusnet do NOT see all the modem resyncs, so thay CAN be kidded slightly into believing a connection is perfectly stable when, on occasions, that is not reality.
Edited by deleted (Thu 21-Jun-12 21:51:50)
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So confirming that the GUI error stats were correct 
However the TELNET ones provide more meat and prove that all your error stats are low  - HEC : 0.0005%
- FEC : 0.0006%
- CRC : 0.0015%
- 1 ES per 31 mins; no Serious ES
These are typical rates for Interleaved and would be much worse on Fast Path.
So your starting premise is invalid 
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Thought the reports was correctly invalid.
Not quite sure what that means.
Your stats are very similar to mine (very slightly worse).
| Text | 1
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67
89
1011
1213
1415
1617
1819
2021
22 | # xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY statusStatus: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0Max: Upstream rate = 4884 Kbps, Downstream rate = 33736 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 4902 Kbps, Downstream rate = 28629 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band PlanUS: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3959) Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (868,1207) DS: (32,859) (1216,1963)
VDSL Port Details Upstream DownstreamAttainable Net Data Rate: 4884 kbps 33736 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power: 6.3 dBm 12.6 dBm============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3 Line Attenuation(dB): 8.3 54.8 84.3 N/A 21.9 64.6 0.1
Signal Attenuation(dB): 9.2 54.1 N/A N/A 21.9 64.6 N/A SNR Margin(dB): 6.1 6.1 N/A N/A 6.3 6.4 N/A
TX Power(dBm): -4.6 5.9 N/A N/A 11.5 6.0 N/A |
Basically your connection's attenuation is too high to achieve a faster/more stable connection.
You have no spare SNRM to speak of, so your connection is currently operating at its maximum capability.
I would guesstimate you are therefore around 1km from the cabinet (or there is quite a serious physical issue somewhere on your connection).
Whenever DLM has been reset on my connection (following engineer repair works), Interleaving has remained OFF for a few days.
Ultimately it always gets automatically switched back on again though, due to various errors accumulating due to the distance from the cabinet & susceptibility to noise interference.
Our high attenuation & low SNRM also means we cannot actually use any of the higher frequency band plan tones that were discovered during initialisation from a reboot or resync.
Does your connection resync regularly?
Bear in mind that Plusnet do NOT see all the modem resyncs, so thay CAN be kidded slightly into believing a connection is perfectly stable when, on occasions, that is not reality.
Had 60-90 days where my connection has not resynced at all. we have good wiring as it's virtually 1 wire from the pole straight to our socket
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Thought the reports was correctly invalid.
Not quite sure what that means.
Your stats are very similar to mine (very slightly worse).
| Text | 1
23
45
67
89
1011
1213
1415
1617
1819
2021
22 | # xdslcmd info --pbParams
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY statusStatus: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0Max: Upstream rate = 4884 Kbps, Downstream rate = 33736 Kbps
Path: 0, Upstream rate = 4902 Kbps, Downstream rate = 28629 Kbps
Discovery Phase (Initial) Band PlanUS: (0,95) (868,1207) (1972,2783)
DS: (32,859) (1216,1963) (2792,3959) Medley Phase (Final) Band Plan
US: (0,95) (868,1207) DS: (32,859) (1216,1963)
VDSL Port Details Upstream DownstreamAttainable Net Data Rate: 4884 kbps 33736 kbps
Actual Aggregate Tx Power: 6.3 dBm 12.6 dBm============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3 Line Attenuation(dB): 8.3 54.8 84.3 N/A 21.9 64.6 0.1
Signal Attenuation(dB): 9.2 54.1 N/A N/A 21.9 64.6 N/A SNR Margin(dB): 6.1 6.1 N/A N/A 6.3 6.4 N/A
TX Power(dBm): -4.6 5.9 N/A N/A 11.5 6.0 N/A |
Basically your connection's attenuation is too high to achieve a faster/more stable connection.
You have no spare SNRM to speak of, so your connection is currently operating at its maximum capability.
I would guesstimate you are therefore around 1km from the cabinet (or there is quite a serious physical issue somewhere on your connection).
Whenever DLM has been reset on my connection (following engineer repair works), Interleaving has remained OFF for a few days.
Ultimately it always gets automatically switched back on again though, due to various errors accumulating due to the distance from the cabinet & susceptibility to noise interference.
Our high attenuation & low SNRM also means we cannot actually use any of the higher frequency band plan tones that were discovered during initialisation from a reboot or resync.
Does your connection resync regularly?
Bear in mind that Plusnet do NOT see all the modem resyncs, so thay CAN be kidded slightly into believing a connection is perfectly stable when, on occasions, that is not reality.
Interleaving was off on our connection for about 96% of the time having the connection activated. Only gets activated when I resync the router myself for changes inside the router.
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