In reply to a post by superspeed:

I will say, anyone who thinks they will get unrestricted access for £5 a month on new or like the old ones, think again. Pay peanuts get monkeys. £20 a month is about right.

You have completely lost me there. Anyone else understand?

Kev what I am trying to say is, that the cheaper the price, the more likely you will be traffic shaped in most cases. You can't expect much for £4.99 month, it's just not sustainable.

A bit like this comparaison I have done. Old or not that's what I am talking about http://s6.postimage.org/r5ylv1b41/PN_Graph.png

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In reply to a post by superspeed:

You can't expect much for £4.99 month, it's just not sustainable.

OK, but I wasn't aware that anyone was offering fibre broadband for £4.99 a month.

I was talking generally. Doesn't have to be fibre and plusnet do do, offers around that range.

This is the closest to what PN are doing and would not touch it. Not fibre but same thing.
http://www.plus.net/packages/extra-broadband-calls/

Edited by deleted (Thu 15-Nov-12 21:28:24)

In reply to a post by superspeed:

I was talking generally. Doesn't have to be fibre and plusnet do do, offers around that range.

Well either you are talking fibre or you're not. The whole subject of this thread is Plusnet Extra Fibre, so non-fibre products are completely irrelevant.

In reply to a post by superspeed:

This is the closest to what PN are doing and would not touch it. Not fibre but same thing.
http://www.plus.net/packages/extra-broadband-calls/

But why not if you just wanted ADSL? The traffic management is identical to Extra Fibre, hardly any restrictions. The image you posted was for a completely different product which is no longer available so is also utterly irrelevant! Anyway, you've had all the answers you wanted so hopefully we can let it rest now.

Kevin I am looking at the detail not the big picture. I know exactly what i'm on about. I am sorry you failed to grasp what I was saying but weather you understand or not, is not relevent to me.

Anyway regardless, a few others will do some tests when connected so this will probably be updated again soon.

I have never found it so hard to chose between two providers. I may need to ask more questions as another way to decide.

A bit like this person http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4089502-bt-...

I hope this is not the case. 40/80 same thing if applies.

And with plusnet is it true people don't quite get the full usage of the 40mbit line?

Edited by deleted (Fri 16-Nov-12 16:58:07)

In reply to a post by superspeed:

I have never found it so hard to chose between two providers. I may need to ask more questions as another way to decide.

A bit like this person http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4089502-bt-...

That was February, since when Plusnet's products and traffic management have completely changed.

Roberto are you sure that page has been updated? It looks the same as what you quoted to chris and still says, Page last updated 23rd May 2011.

I noticed you have said about this before. http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/plusnet/t/4078187-r...

I hadn't spotted the on about upload line speed, but yes, the FTTC upload of only 2Mbps is an issue for several people. Apparently they are trialling 10Mbps, but one wonders what they need to trial apart from their own upload capacity. Perhaps the traffic management on 10Mbps non-Pro.

They are basically a good ISP though, except their ticketing system and first line support are dodgy at times. Reps here and on the in-house forum are good and helpful.

Full thread here http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/plusnet/4078179-ftt...

Found this. http://usergroup.plus.net/forum/index.php?topic=7363.0

Jelv1
Have you looked at http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/do... ? (Don't forget your P2P client probably reports KB/s (bytes) and that page gives Kbps (bits) so you need to divide them by 8 ). On Value Fibre at times you should only expect 32KBps and on Extra Fibre at times only 64KBps.

chrisparr Please note the units on the page that Jelv has linked to. The speed for P2P is 1Mb (note the small b), this equates to roughly 120KB/s so isn't far away from what you're currently seeing.

It's now 2Mb so we are told and that would be about 240KB/s now then. That seems to be about what chris posted. If as said by op above, then it is slow.

BTW john lewis resell plusnet but looks even worse. https://www.johnlewisbroadband.com/faq/#whatspeed

I am not going to start a new thread about this so will post here. I though I would test your sign up process. I used the link for PN fibre only but it seems their is no option but to have the line rental with plusnet. No option to remove the PN line rental on both screens either.

I don't like it that plusnet feel the need to add line rental at the start of your order. Making like they are helping you.

See screen grabs first and second page of order test. I have not orded anything I was just testing. If I go with PN I don't want the phone but looks like you have to have it.

First page
http://s6.postimage.org/clkbvzm9t/plusnet_order_test...

second page
http://s6.postimage.org/w4ox5cl1d/plusnet_order_test...

Hope you can explain chris and get it changed.

A possibility as it says on the first picture - You need a compatible phone service
Looking at the speeds in your first post you appear to be on an LLU connection and, if I am correct and it is full LLU, then you can't get fibre using the BT based system as that needs a BT based phone line - not LLU

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