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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Wed 19-Dec-12 22:45:33
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Unlimited vs Pro


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On ADSL2+

Shaping? No shaping? Prioritisation? No prioritisation?

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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Wed 19-Dec-12 23:38:36
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Re: Unlimited vs Pro


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It will be interesting to see how slow traffic in the Unlimited "bronze" queue will go at peak times. Apparently it has a "minimum bandwidth allowance" but I can't see a figure quoted anywhere.

Oliver.

Edited by Oliver341 (Wed 19-Dec-12 23:39:02)
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 19-Dec-12 23:45:45
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Re: Unlimited vs Pro


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?
Pro is an add-on. Apparently regarded by PN staff as pretty pointless on the Unlimited products.

http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...

At least one of the above includes that it could be detrimental if the user is maxing out their own connection as it could mess up their own prioritisation.

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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 19-Dec-12 23:46:42)


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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 19-Dec-12 23:53:19
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Re: Unlimited vs Pro


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I am curious of this as well, the plusnet rep has said more than once that everything will run at line speed.

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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Thu 20-Dec-12 00:01:12
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
I am curious of this as well, the plusnet rep has said more than once that everything will run at line speed.

Line speed with an asterisk wink

Perhaps the information on this page: http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/do...

should be combined with the information on this page: http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/tr...

They both feel quite different to each other, with one just saying "all traffic" while the other carves the different traffic up into categories.

Oliver.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 20-Dec-12 00:26:25
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Re: Unlimited vs Pro


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No throttling is applied to any protocol that you use. Your line is allowed to run at the full speed it can, subject to the IP Profile.

However various things are prioritised through the Plusnet routers. VOIP and gaming being the most obvious ones.

Neither of those two statements precludes the possibility of there being congestion through those routers or through the gateways and MSILs. Or even through the BTW cloud backhaul. But that possibility is another reason the prioritisation system is good.

Congestion, if it occurs, is a different question altogether.

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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 20-Dec-12 00:27:41
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Exactly Oliver.

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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 20-Dec-12 02:35:01
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Re: Unlimited vs Pro


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no rate limit, but what happens if the bronze queue is filled up, surely that means bronze traffic slows down?

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 20-Dec-12 10:02:49
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http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/plusnet/t/4190908-u...

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Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Thu 20-Dec-12 11:51:11
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
no rate limit, but what happens if the bronze queue is filled up, surely that means bronze traffic slows down?

We're still waiting for Plusnet staff to clarify what the "minimum bandwidth allowance" for the bronze queue is. There's really not a whole lot of point in them saying there's a minimum allowance without telling us what it is.

Oliver.

Edited by Oliver341 (Thu 20-Dec-12 11:51:35)
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