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ISP Representative chrisparr
(isp) Thu 20-Dec-12 11:54:14
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Re: Unlimited vs Pro


[re: Oliver341] [link to this post]
 
There's really not a whole lot of point in them saying there's a minimum allowance without telling us what it is.


Where's that quoted?

The bronze queue doesn't have a maximum threshold, so it shouldn't fill up!

Also in reality the amount of bandwidth we've provisioned ready for this launch means that you won't see slowdowns on the lower priority stuff unless you're hammering something on your particular line (not at a network level).

Chris Parr
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Edited by chrisparr (Thu 20-Dec-12 11:56:14)

The above post has been made by an ISP REPRESENTATIVE (although not necessarily the ISP being discussed in the post).
Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Thu 20-Dec-12 12:00:08
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Re: Unlimited vs Pro


[re: chrisparr] [link to this post]
 
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Where's that quoted?

Here: http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/tr...


The bronze queue doesn't have a maximum threshold, so it shouldn't fill up!

But bronze can be slowed down, relative to other traffic, otherwise you wouldn't need to call it "bronze".


Also in reality the amount of bandwidth we've provisioned ready for this launch means that you won't see slowdowns on the lower priority stuff unless you're hammering something on your particular line (not at a network level).

The page I quoted talks about "busy times". Do you not mean "busy" as in overall network load?

Oliver.
Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Thu 20-Dec-12 13:56:17
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Pro is an add-on. Apparently regarded by PN staff as pretty pointless on the Unlimited products.

http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...

At least one of the above includes that it could be detrimental if the user is maxing out their own connection as it could mess up their own prioritisation.


Some excellent linking Rob. The fourth seals it for me:

I had this debate internally. For your average user, there isn't any point in Pro on Unlimited at all. But, if you really dislike the idea of Plusnet selecting what is prioritised or not, it is there as an option. It's required internally though to get around the situation where we have a misclassification of a protocol which should be in titanium but is being put into bronze. With pro, it puts it at least in Gold while we fix the signature.


Basically, if I get less than line speed on anything, I'll be moaning about it, especially since I'm on ADSL2+ and not a heavy user (20-30GB of daytime usage monthly).

I still think there should be the option for quality vs quantity (at the same price). Heavy user or low latency, high prioritisation user. Shifting from Pro Extra to Unlimited chops £6.50 a month off my bill though, so assuming I can get an uncapped upload within that, it should be all good.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 20-Dec-12 19:28:29
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Re: Unlimited vs Pro


[re: chrisparr] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by chrisparr:
There's really not a whole lot of point in them saying there's a minimum allowance without telling us what it is.
Where's that quoted?

The bronze queue doesn't have a maximum threshold, so it shouldn't fill up!

Also in reality the amount of bandwidth we've provisioned ready for this launch means that you won't see slowdowns on the lower priority stuff unless you're hammering something on your particular line (not at a network level).
It isn't a maximum threshold Chris, it's a minimum bandwidth, and the way it's worded implies to me it is a reservation of total Plusnet capacity for this queue. Meaning it can use more when available, but be reduced to the minimum if there are huge demands from higher priority queues.
What this means: at busy times, higher priority queues will take bandwidth from the lowest queue(s) currently in use (but never enough to take the lower queue below its minimum bandwidth allowance).
I accept your statement that at the moment it just isn't going to happen, but in time it could. That's how the system is designed smile.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 20-Dec-12 20:34:05
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This is also of interest to me, im currently on the 250gb package with pro addon.
i want to know if ill loose out speed wise if i go to the unlimited!
ISP Representative chrisparr
(isp) Thu 20-Dec-12 22:49:18
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I accept your statement that at the moment it just isn't going to happen, but in time it could. That's how the system is designed


Only if we don't keep adding bandwidth to keep up with demand! There's more than enough focus to ensure this doesn't happen though, along with assurances from Kelly, Bob and myself about this too.

Chris Parr
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The above post has been made by an ISP REPRESENTATIVE (although not necessarily the ISP being discussed in the post).
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 20-Dec-12 22:58:59
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I actually believe you, but just wasn't happy about the wording of your previous post. And if I'd said it would never happen, other posters would have been down on me like a ton of bricks smile.

BUT
Seeing as you're here, have you seen this post, and the questions at the end of it? The guys had a bad time elsewhere.

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 20-Dec-12 22:59:34)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 20-Dec-12 23:02:38
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In reply to a post by chrisparr:
Only if we don't keep adding bandwidth to keep up with demand! There's more than enough focus to ensure this doesn't happen though, along with assurances from Kelly, Bob and myself about this too.
This is like deja vu all over again.
Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Thu 20-Dec-12 23:09:57
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
This is like deja vu all over again.


I doubt that the existing owners are going to be doing things the way previous owners may have (or may not have for that matter).

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 20-Dec-12 23:15:13
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