There are a lot of posters on these forums asking why everything but torrents come to a halt and even their torrents slow down.

I'm not fully into the explanation, but apparently it is that they have too many torrenting stream so the upload gets saturated. Preventing the ACKs for all traffic getting through. Therefore the downstream self-throttles.

This in fact seems to be a ploy used by BT Retail to restrain torrent speeds even when they aren't technically throttling the downstream. They throttle the upstream for P2P, thus to some extent achieving the same result.

The user solution, (excluding the BT ploy), is to limit the number of seeds they take, to the level at which there is free upstream.

Just to add to my previous post of saving £6.50 per month. That would be on the 12-month contract arrangement. If I opt for the 'no-contrect' arrangement, it's a saving of £4 per month.

One question for the reps. Will the Pro option still be available as an add-on if on unlimited, and why?

If fact the first part is answered here:

http://community.plus.net/unlimited-faq/

So, yes it will be available:

It the Pro add-on still available?
It can be requested via the add-ons page when logged into our website. The benefits of the Pro add-on are minimal for customers choosing one of the new Unlimited products due to the way traffic on the product is managed.

(Note to reps: typo on first word)

So can a rep give an example of a minimal benefit for a 20-40GB per month user who doesn't use P2P? For example, I upload to a web server regularly (I may yet look into Annex M, but don't believe I would get a decent increase of upload, but that's for another thread), and the majority of my usage is in the 'web' 'streaming' or 'other' categories.

There's a good argument that I may not have benefited from the Pro add-on at all, but I like the idea of not being put in a queue or throttled due to others' habits.

I still see slow downs at peak periods despite being on the Pro package, but it may be localised, so there's little I can do other than change ISP to test that theory. Short of Plusnet parking my account while I try another ISP for 2-3 months, it's not going to happen.

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I agree upstream on torrents can swamp easily.

Downstream normally self regulates much better tho.

But I have conceded now since I am not a regular p2p user my experience is probably inadequate.

I think its just one of those time will tell situations, I think good points have been made on both sides and ultimately this will come down to if the plusnet budget can pay for any upgrades needed from the huge demand that will be expected.

My guess is that for a while the main demand is going to come on ADSLx, not fibre. Most "Unlimited" wanters will already be on BT or Sky, (apart from those on new cabinets coming online), still within contract. Followed by inertia.

So at least the byte throughput will be lower than if the other way round.

Hi,

That question is answered earlier on:
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1099...

We've removed it from sign up, but left it available.

During the Olympics we fired up utorrent and downloaded some linux ISO's at the same time as watching an iplayer stream. When we turned the traffic management off, the streams all broke up. When we turned it back on, it cleared up.

In reply to a post by KellyD:

During the Olympics we fired up utorrent and downloaded some linux ISO's at the same time as watching an iplayer stream. When we turned the traffic management off, the streams all broke up. When we turned it back on, it cleared up.

Interesting to know this testing before release a Unlimited for the first time! Yes, streaming is more important now than p2p, as because of sky go, bbci player, you tubes, tv catchup, sky on demand and the lists go on.

Just as i dont like the throttling/slowing on p2p/usenet.