In reply to a post by eddie1150:

Just as i dont like the throttling/slowing on p2p/usenet.

As Kelly just explained.

On Unlimited Fibre there is no throttling, but there is prioritisation of other traffic. Not only on the platform, but on your line. Take Pro and you avoid that.

But!

If there's just you that's fine. If you have a couple of kids playing games and your wife watching iPlayer, you could wreck their experience. and your own. Remove Pro and all will be fine for all of you.

Do it on BT Infinity and you'll just get throttled to blazes.

Edited by RobertoS (Fri 21-Dec-12 15:42:59)

Cheers.

In reply to a post by camieabz:

If fact the first part is answered here:

http://community.plus.net/unlimited-faq/

So, yes it will be available:

It the Pro add-on still available?
It can be requested via the add-ons page when logged into our website. The benefits of the Pro add-on are minimal for customers choosing one of the new Unlimited products due to the way traffic on the product is managed.

(Note to reps: typo on first word)

So can a rep give an example of a minimal benefit for a 20-40GB per month user who doesn't use P2P? For example, I upload to a web server regularly (I may yet look into Annex M, but don't believe I would get a decent increase of upload, but that's for another thread), and the majority of my usage is in the 'web' 'streaming' or 'other' categories.

There's a good argument that I may not have benefited from the Pro add-on at all, but I like the idea of not being put in a queue or throttled due to others' habits.

I still see slow downs at peak periods despite being on the Pro package, but it may be localised, so there's little I can do other than change ISP to test that theory. Short of Plusnet parking my account while I try another ISP for 2-3 months, it's not going to happen.

I'm also interested in Annex M as the increase in upspeed would allow me to host for more players in online gaming, and uploading video's to youtube faster.
I had been previously waiting for FTTC in March 2012, but now it just says before end of 2013. So I'm stuck on ADSL2+ the same as Camiebz, but I dont really want to be paying more per month then someone on Unlimited Fibre Broadband (£19.99 80/20Meg).

What i've read on the Plusnet website, Annex M costs £12 (£10+VAT) on top of what I'm already paying, so switching to unlimited would bring the total monthly cost to £22 a month.

This is a good read (not addressed to you specifically but of general interest)

http://community.plus.net/blog/2012/12/21/its-unlimi...

yeah p2p throttling on infinity is pretty brutal according to tests I have done.

That was a good read!

When talking traffic management and Plusnet's queuing system I tended to think of it as competing for bandwidth with other customers. So the higher the prioritisation (Pro add on) the better and less likely to have 'My Internet' slowed down.

If you assume that they will always have enough capacity to satisfy their customers bandwidth requirements then this is more about QOS and moving it away from the customer's router and into the control of Plusnet.

So for example P2P will always run at line speed if I'm not using my connection for anything else, even though it is in a low priority queue.

As I imagine most people do not have any form of decent QOS on their router this becomes a unique selling point for Plusnet's product.
All they have to do is re-educate people (and maintain enough bandwidth!)

Yes, I'd just found it independently, and came here to post a link to it. It's an excellent explanation.

Yep, good read, but at an exchange level, VOIP or gaming traffic is not going to be prioritised over other ISPs' heavy P2P customers, is it?

Well not unless BT are running something similar over the wholesale network. So if one is on an exchange with medium to high contention, what can the customer or ISP do? Convince all the other householders to move to the same ISP?

is exchange level congestion common on BTw FTTC?

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

is exchange level congestion common on BTw FTTC?

Not that I'm aware of. Apart from IPSC circuits which effectively are 20CN until they leave the exchange.