In reply to a post by superspeed:

Just found this on PN website but don't say how much will cause a problem.

Leave your router switched on
Leaving your router on will make sure you get the best speed and performance from your service.

Don�t switch it off at night! Regularly switching off your router can make it look like your service is disconnecting. If this happens, your broadband speed will be reduced because the exchange thinks your line is unstable and can�t cope with higher speeds. Speed reductions are never permanent, but it can take up to 3 days before your speeds return to normal.

http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/sp...

That is clearly what was written for ADSLx and hasn't been amended for fibre. It has to mean modem/router and is just using the same shorthand as most of us do. Note that it doesn't mention modems, and a router cannot connect to the internet.

As for the 3-day bit - that means it has been incorrect even for ADSL since August 2008 when the 3-day IP Profile system it refers to was replaced by a 4-hour to five day one. Which itself has now been replaced by the instantaneous 88.2% of sync on WBC/WBMC.

So don't take any notice of it.

Ummmm!!!!

On proof-reading at the Preview stage, it's even worse. Complete twaddle. The 3-day recovery thing was IP Profile, which for this discussion is only driven by connection speed, and the speed reduction side would be sync-time noise margin raising which takes/took 10-14 days per 3dB reduction.

Tripe.

So following the advice on that page have you got the microfilters fitted correctly and are you user the master socket as illustrated in the picture?

Plusnet's internal tools (they create pretty pictures of the PPP session drop/restore) will see each drop of the router, but this information is NOT used by the cabinet, DLM or Openreach. It is more used by the Plusnet support people when they want to troubleshoot your line.

Well I shouldn�t have anything to worry about if that is just PN�s software but they don�t tell you that and still say, it can affect your line speed.

Anyway thanks for your replies . No wonder you are a bright spark.

Ha ha your post made me laugh.


I did a search from google and that's what came up. I didn't take much notice of the rest of it, just wanted to see what plusnet said about turning a router on and off and how they think it affects your line. Looks like they are using the same information on fibre, even if it isn't relevant, as you say.


Looks like PN have some updating to do on their website then.

No, I have no need for filters, as I have a proper filtered socket now. It's as I said to roberto above.

Edited by deleted (Thu 03-Jan-13 16:27:10)

While we are on the subject of DLM, could someone please answer this question honestly.

Is it true that due to ofcom regulations, that DLM is required on all lines and if not, will have to be implemented?

If that is true, then that is absolutely ridiculous. Otherwise may just an excuse for isp's to keep us on DLM. DLM should be able to be turned off.

Just to a thought - Surely the whole idea of DLM to keep the line stable. I know it is a real pain, but the concept is a good one (when it works correctly). It just seems to identify everything as a disconnection

In reply to a post by superspeed:

No, I have no need for filters, as I have a proper filtered socket now.

Given that you had realised there were some things on there that didn't apply to fibre, did it not occur to you that there was a distinct possibility that none of it applied and it was written before fibre came along?

It could of applied to both or some of it. It didn't exactly say it was ADSL or fibre.
Again see what I said to roberto.

PN have been caught out with, out of date information in the past. Just look at one of my old threads.

Edited by deleted (Thu 03-Jan-13 21:24:18)

Yes that is correct and DLM is a pain but that doesn't answer my question.

I can't find anything that says, Ofcom requires isp's/wholesale, to use DLM on broadband lines.