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(deleted) Mon 14-Jan-13 15:58:11
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Hi superspeed,

I believe Dave did send off the whole block (at least that part of it that is allocated to us) so it's just a matter of Sky updating their database from the now-amended one that Neustar have. Not sure how often Sky do refresh from the Neustar 'master' DB but that's now what we're waiting on.
Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Tue 15-Jan-13 08:34:47
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Surely it's Sky that you should be pestering now that PN has made sure the correct information has been passed on?

jelv

Plusnet user since November 2001
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(deleted) Tue 15-Jan-13 20:26:45
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As I am assigned a dynamic IP, I could get any one. But I am still being assigned problem IP's that I have never had. So I still need to provide them IP's to plusnet, to sort out.

I am keeping a list of the problem IP's, so I know what ones I have had.

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(deleted) Tue 15-Jan-13 20:32:18
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Ah matt, I was wondering if you was ever going to post on here. Now you have. smile

Thanks matt.

I have only been sending single IP's to dave but dave never said he was going to send in the whole block.

It's like I said to jelv above Matt. I can only give problem IP's when I am assigned them, which is normally once a day. smile

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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-13 00:36:07
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Another blasted bad IP again, in the same range as before. 146.90.**.** How long does it take to go through? And are your sure the whole block has been submitted?

I think these IP's are so old and that's the reason for this continued problem. I would like some option in my members centre please, so that I can block these annoying problem IP's until they are either removed from the pool, or the problem is sorted.

Think you need to add some fresh IP's to the pool of old dynamic IP's you have.

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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-13 01:15:32
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In reply to a post by superspeed:
Another blasted bad IP again, in the same range as before. 146.90.**.** How long does it take to go through? And are your sure the whole block has been submitted?

I think these IP's are so old and that's the reason for this continued problem. I would like some option in my members centre please, so that I can block these annoying problem IP's until they are either removed from the pool, or the problem is sorted.

Think you need to add some fresh IP's to the pool of old dynamic IP's you have.

If these problems are so troubling to you, switch to a static IP - most modern PlusNet products permit this for a one-off £5 payment. So long as you are not in the habit of getting yourself IP bans from services you care about or bringing yourself to the attention of someone who may wish to DDoS you, this really isn't a problem unless you're in the habit of getting a fresh address to circumvent a restriction (such as the Royal Mail's per-address daily limit on postcode lookups).

With an organisation such as PlusNet, it's impossible for someone attempting to track you to know easily whether your IP address is static or dynamic without inside knowledge of the ISP. If someone is prepared to go to that sort of effort, I suggest you have bigger concerns than them examining whatever portion of your Internet traffic they have. Anyone persuading a court there are legitimate concerns about the legality of your Internet use can apply for a court order requiring disclosure of which customer the address was allocated to - dynamic IP will not protect you here.


The peril of being on dynamic IP is that you may get an address that others have got banned, or where there's some kind of geolocation issue. With static IP, any issues have to be sorted one time only, and from then on you're responsible for how other people look upon your IP address.


There are no fresh IPv4 addresses to add to pools - the supply has run out. I don't know how much spare IPv4 address space PlusNet has, but every organisation will be making strenuous efforts to reuse address space wherever possible.

An 'opt out of problem pools' switch is clearly doomed, as increasing numbers of customers will select the option and not unselect it. I'd like to know how you define a problem address, especially as recent allocations of IP blocks to organisations were increasingly likely to have come from reclaimed rather than virgin space.
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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-13 10:04:09
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In reply to a post by superspeed:
Another blasted bad IP again, in the same range as before. 146.90.**.** How long does it take to go through? And are your sure the whole block has been submitted?

I'll nudge Dave but as far as I'm aware he asked Neustar to consider the entire 146.90.xxx.xxx netblock. There's a possibility still that Sky are using an outdated database I guess?

Rgds,
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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-13 17:12:45
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Thanks but David, you didn't really have to explain all that. As said to roberto, I don't want a static IP or should I have to pay for one. I prefer a dynamic IP but if you read my first post, you will see what it's all about. Nothing to do with having more than, one free postal check a day or getting round some ban.
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/plusnet/t/4193817-p...


The pro's and con's of dynamic VS static IP have been debated to death. I have my view and others have there�s, no one can ever agree on it. Just so you know, Plusnet had a court order a few years ago among many, to obtain some customers details but that was before I became a customer. Your IP alone is not 100 proof you did wrong. I even have a copy of that court order from the web. wink http://s6.postimage.org/y7s6d6fsx/IA_30_OF_2010_SEAL...

Anyway the IP's I am assigned should work out the box but many don't.

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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-13 17:19:46
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Thanks bob. That all depends on how long Neustar take to sort this out? Well even if it's still sky, someone from PN will need to get hold of them at sky.

I have already tried to contact sky about it and not much good. I don't have the correct contacts like an isp would have. It's not really down to the customer anyway.

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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Wed 23-Jan-13 17:43:04
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Why should anyone from Plusnet expend effort when it's Sky's problem?

jelv

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