In reply to a post by Oliver341:

As has already been mentioned, it's Sky's mistake to fix, and Plusnet have already made sure that the geoip location services which Sky use are up to date (they didn't even need to do that).

As has already been mentioned, in reality the BBC took the same position and the ISP had to fix it.

Plusnet don't get to choose what IPs they get give, RIPE issue them to Plusnet, Plusnet can't say to RIPE "hey, I don't like these, they have a 5 in them!" because RIPE will just say "fine, don't have any then".

Do you have a link where that has happened?

And funnily enough, this issue even affects Sky's broadband customers

Again, do you have a link?

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

]As has already been mentioned, in reality the BBC took the same position and the ISP had to fix it.

How can Plusnet fix Sky's systems? Are you suggesting Plusnet have some kind of backdoor to Sky's databases?

Again, do you have a link?

http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Broadband-Setup-Conn...

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

]As has already been mentioned, in reality the BBC took the same position and the ISP had to fix it.

How can Plusnet fix Sky's systems? Are you suggesting Plusnet have some kind of backdoor to Sky's databases?

You mean the BBC had a backdoor to AOL's databases?

Again, do you have a link?

http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Broadband-Setup-Conn...

You never know, the link may suggest another way forward for the OP.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

You mean the BBC had a backdoor to AOL's databases?

AOL were issuing USA IP addresses to UK customers which was obviously a bad idea, quite different to Plusnet, who are issuing UK IP addresses.

I don't think IP addresses are country specific.

I assume the RIPE conversation never happened?

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

I don't think IP addresses are country specific.

They are. Or more accurately, the country in which they are being issued is clear, and various sites block access from overseas to some or all of their services based on picking that up.

The Beeb being a case in point that you have brought up yourself, and Sky in this case by not updating their database to reflect the fact that the IP addresses in question are now UK allocated, not overseas.

I don't think they are country specific

Each region of the world has an organization that is responsible for assigning IPs in their region. For example, North America has ARIN. There are Asian, European Africa etc versions as well.

If i can't use my connection for what it was ment to be used for, then PN would not be providng me with a, fit for purpose service. I would have a right to terminate a contract on that if the issue continued.

I'm not going to get into legal technicalities about it and I have rights. If this issue was to continue in next few months, then PN may not have a leg to stand on. I never had this stupid problem with my last isp and I know my last isp would of gone out of their way to get it sorted. I think they would even email sky about it for a start.

You obviously didn't read that court order properly. It has nothing to do with defamation but to do with copyright infringement.

Edited by deleted (Thu 24-Jan-13 13:18:16)

Nice try but is as I said. Anyway I have noticed a pattern.

All the problem IP's start with either 31.185.any.any. or 146.90.any.any

If i have an IP thats starts with 87 or 91, they seem to work.

And I have another proble IP today thats starts with 146.90.

You just don't get it, do you?

You buy a horse. You go to ride it along a public bridleway, but the landowner has padlocked the gate shut.

In your analysis, the horse is not fit for purpose because the seller has not made the landowner open the gate, and you hold the horse-seller responsible.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 24-Jan-13 13:33:02)