Yup, I've got drawers full of cables, adapters and numerous other assorted obsolescent large and small odds and sods - to the extent that something's got to give, e.g. a power supply, disk drive, you name it.

But doubtless you have more space than I have.

In reply to a post by ArthurDent:

But doubtless you have more space than I have.

I doubt my wife would agree

No need to wait, we all know what the result will be! The wireless 'capability' (a most inappropriate term) of the TG582 is well known. The only way I've ever seen a satisfactory resolution is by people using their own (e.g. a HH3).

I was optimistic, for once, but should have known better!

Received and installed the replacement router sent to me by the good guys at pn about ten days ago. No probs whatsoever until just now. Ethernet desktop running fine but wifi laptop and ipad suddenly deceased. Hit the black button on the back of the router, waited, then resuscitated it ok. I trust this is a one off. Otherwise it looks as if this tg582n router will also be going in the skip.

Any thoughts from you experienced folks, please, about using a TP-Link TD-W8968 for non-fibre (annoyingly that would mean spending an unbudgeted £32 at Amazon) ?

Why on earth does pn persist in supplying the tg582n router which, from numerous posts here and on plusnet's own forum, is clearly substandard? Perhaps they've got a warehouse full of the damn things?

They ain't doing themselves any favours.

I expect they use a company to do this for them, The main UK importer of TG, formerly Thompson Speedtouch provides a service that handles sending out routers for ISPs that many of them use. They have been doing it since the days of the speedtouch USB modems and it means that they don't have to deal with the hardware.

We tried to convince many ISPs to send out our filters to their customers so that they would get fewer technical issues with sub standard filters but very few took up the idea preferring instead to leave it all to the hardware fulfilment company.

Yes GD, that figures.

When I returned the previous one, using the bag that came with the replacement, the address didn't mention pn. I had a feeling it was going back to bt, which wouldn't have been surprising.