Sorry, no gaming.

I did intend to do a wired one this afteroon to see if it was better, but got busy then forgot. I might get a chance in a bit, else it will have to be tomorrow.

The base latency looks to be 21ms for me, from the BQM. That makes sense as when I was on Fast Path it was 13ms. The interleaving has scuppered that.

I've never seen that 2ms jitter before. Occasionally 1ms, usually zero. That's why I need to try wired for you.

In reply to a post by restarts:

Anybody been on bethere and 21CN

You mean at the same time? Impossible cuz Be is LLU!

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

In reply to a post by restarts:

Anybody been on bethere and 21CN

You mean at the same time? Impossible cuz Be is LLU!

No, I mean switched from one to the other or vice versa, And tell the difference in ping times.

Isn't 21CN LLU?

Edited by deleted (Sun 14-Apr-13 18:43:48)

You're probably getting mixed up with LLU being ADSL2+ ever since it came along, and "21CN" being how BT Wholesale caught up and no longer only did ADSL Max, but now has ADSL2+ as well.

21CN is out-of-date speak for BT's fully digital services, replacing the old 20CN analogue ones.

21CN covers PSTN (phone) and WBC/WBMC (broadband) provision.

21CN PSTN seems to have run into such problems you never even hear it whispered - or at least I don't.

WBC and the closely related WBMC are BT Wholesale's all-digital broadband products. (ADSLx does use analogue between the exchange and the premises even on that, and the same on LLU).

LLU specifically means that ISPs have installed their own kit in BT exchanges and that the broadband service offered does not use BT Wholesale exchange kit. (DSLAMs and MSANs).

A fuller explanation of LLU, and WBC etc.

restarts, I would advise u to stay with Xilo LLU because if you move to Plusnet ADSL2+ as you will faced a horrible nightmare with BT exchange exspecially DLM (Digital Line Management in contol) plus BT IP Profile capped and further more a Plusnet IP Profile capped too. I do believe that Xilo LLU is no DLM, no IP Profile on both sides too. I couldn't get Xilo at my exchange because it not available LLU with Xilo. If my exchange had Xilo LLU then I would choose Xilo over Plusnet to avoid BT System (DLM, IP Profile and Plusnet IP Profile)

Edited by adslmax (Mon 15-Apr-13 11:14:20)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

if you move to Plusnet ADSL2+ as you will faced a horrible nightmare

I slight overstatement I think, with no evidence to back it up.

Having an off day Max?

Only a couple of weeks ago or so you were saying how Plusnet is the best ISP you have ever been with.

What you say about IP Profiling you well know is not correct. A bit of truth in it pre-WBC.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I couldn't get Xilo at my exchange because it not available LLU with Xilo. If my exchange had Xilo LLU then I would choose Xilo over Plusnet to avoid BT System (DLM, IP Profile and Plusnet IP Profile)

???

I don't see how an automatically set IP Profile etc. on 21CN WBC has any major disadvantages over LLU - surely both would give one a very similar ADSL2+ throughput on a good line?

And what do you mean by Xilo LLU - are you saying that Xilo, as resellers, can not provide you with a LLU service because their is no availability on C&W, TTB, etc. kit at your exchange or that your exchange is not LLU'd?

Well i got my MAC yesterday and signed up with plusnet, Only to find out that there is 12 months half price , So i will be paying £5.00 a month for unlimited broadband on ADSL2+ for the next 12 months and then to £9.99 after the 12 months.

Let us know how you get on .