There are 3 LLU operators ta my Exchange but I'm also still stuck on Market 1

I'm in absolute agreement with you on this one... public discussions are public...

And chucking my 2 cents in...

Surely it's OFCOM that the OPs question should be addressed to or their MP. OFCOM create the 3 classifications for wholesale prices presumably to create an artificial market.

Thanks
Tim

We've not got any plans at the moment to change pricing. If we do alter it based on the new(ish) market definitions then we'll let you know.

& this review is only still a consultation document, not a regulation, for which responses will be taken until late Sept.

It's a bit early to demand that PN have yet decided their stance.

Thanks - I had a quick look for it before asking for the reference, but it didn't leap out at me. Seeing as he presumably knew it, it would have been helpful if he had referenced it in the OP.

Just half way through the summary and got to go out, but para 1.5 looks like they have amalgamated M1 and M2 as MA, and M3 = MB. Presumably most retail ISPs will carry on regardless, and PlusNet will have to decide what to do. As, on te face of it, M2 is currently priced the same as M3 but PN give the M3 discount, (IIRC at first they only discounted M3), it gets difficult.

It could be argued that if re-assessed on their current wholesaler availability that M1 would now be very small, but any price structure changes that PN could make would of course be based on changing from calculations based on the existing setup.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

para 1.5 looks like they have amalgamated M1 and M2 as MA, and M3 = MB.

From the low %age for MA can't it be read that MA = M1 & MB = M2+M3? In 2010 M1 was 16.4% while now MA covers just 9.6%.

As far as PN is concerned it seems obvious that MA is the new M1 pricewise .

"Market A: exchange areas where there are no more than two Principal Operators (POs) present or forecast to be present, which accounts for 9.6% of UK premises." - http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/revie...

So a former M2 classified exchange will no longer be in a PN "low cost area"?

No, because M1 is no LLU, M2 is 1 LLU. Therefore MA = M1 + M2.

That's precisely the difficulty I just explained PN will have in adjusting prices. Your conclusion based on XRaySpeX's post is incorrect because as I've just explained to him, he is wrong.

In effect, M2 = MA and M3 = MB. M1 is scrapped. But a large number of M2s already have more than 1 LLU, and a significant number of M1s already have at least 1 LLU and possibly 2.

Both Sky and TT have expanded their footprint, and C & W added a fair number post 2010. I expect a fair proportion of M1 will become MB.

Depending what comes out of the further consultation, I expect PN will end up with a unified price. Though it would be possible for them to introduce MA and MB pricing for new or product-changing customers.