In reply to a post by 4M2:

... but how can PN give my exchange a possible MB classification when it is still M2 according to SamKnows? I thought PN used those M1/2/3 classifications when deciding if one is in a "low cost area"...

Yes, PlusNet use Market Classifications to determine low/high cost areas. But Market Classifications occur at a specific point in time, not as an on-going process. The last time was November 2010, for the December 2010 list. They will be reclassified once this new framework is agreed by all concerned.

They will be reclassified on the basis of the number of LLU suppliers at each exchange some time next year, taking into account any LLU suppliers at Stage 3 or later of LLU'ing that exchange.

PlusNet are well aware of the LLU suppliers at all exchanges as of today, just as samknows is. They can therefore make a good stab at forecasting what each exchange will be classed as. There will of course be additional LLU provisions between now and the final date - by definition neither samknows nor PlusNet are yet aware of those.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

I would have thought that you would be glad for it to be MB as surely this will rank as PN 'low cost area'.

Actually prompted by the discussion in this thread I've just discovered that Sky now have a LLU presence at my exchange (haven't checked on SamKnows recently)...that's food for thought...although I guess they don't do partial LLU on a 30 day minimum term...

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

PlusNet are well aware of the LLU suppliers at all exchanges as of today, just as samknows is. They can therefore make a good stab at forecasting what each exchange will be classed as. There will of course be additional LLU provisions between now and the final date - by definition neither samknows nor PlusNet are yet aware of those.

Interesting though that the example of a M2 exchange, i.e. MYCTN, given by XRaySpeX is possibly going to classified MB according to PN since neither SamKnows nor Plusnet are aware of additional LLU provisions before the final date...

VM is available in some areas, and that counts . So MYCTN is BT + 2.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

VM is available in some areas, and that counts . So MYCTN is BT + 2.

Right - I didn't know that cable counted also

These are not the Plusnet or Samknows classification but the proposed OFCOM classifications from the discussion document

Good point (& memory).

In reply to a post by Oldjim:

These are not the Plusnet or Samknows classification but the proposed OFCOM classifications from the discussion document

Understood

In reply to a post by Oldjim:

These are not the Plusnet or Samknows classification but the proposed OFCOM classifications from the discussion document

Did I miss something? I didn't see a list. So the PN method of classification will be as I described?

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/consultati...
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