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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 07-Jan-13 10:41:51
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Re: Router/modem on off & DLM effects


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Hi,

The DLM cannot be turned off , we can configure settings with the DLM to be more lenient when required.

@Bald_Eagle1
Are you still seeing drops on your connection?
Standard User kasg
(experienced) Mon 07-Jan-13 12:20:59
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Re: Router/modem on off & DLM effects


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In reply to a post by chrispurvey:
we can configure settings with the DLM to be more lenient when required.

Hi Chris,

Is that a new development? How is "required" defined and what settings can you change?

Kevin

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 07-Jan-13 12:32:51
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Re: Router/modem on off & DLM effects


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we can configure settings with the DLM to be more lenient when required.
Can you say more about the three options you have ?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 07-Jan-13 12:33:34
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Re: Router/modem on off & DLM effects


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In reply to a post by chrispurvey:
@Bald_Eagle1
Are you still seeing drops on your connection?


Thanks for asking Chris, but no. That was all eventually resolved last May (I thought).
It turned out to be a combination of a defective VDSL2 SSFP filter & a really fragile joint between the pole top DP & the underground D-side cable that simply snapped off when the engineer went to check it.

However, since 31st December, I have seen a sudden drop in my attainable rates & just the one the fly resync lowered my sync speed by around 3Mb to 25746 kbps.

Prior to the resync, my DS SNRM was unusually running at around 2.8dB (from its usual really steady 6dB).

DS SNRM is at a steady 6dB again now, but DS Attainable rate has reduced from 33596 kbps to its current 30216 knps.

I did force a resync to no avail.

So, I was intending to wait until a couple of weeks after Christmas rather than keep resyncing the connection, just in case this deterioration had been caused by tree lights etc.

If things don't pick up again, I will be asking for it to be looked into as I can see quite a deterioration in my internet "experience".

I'm sure that getting Plusnet/BT to look into it won't be any easy matter to instigate as I would expect to see the usual "the connection is operating within acceptable limits" type of responses again.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 07-Jan-13 12:54:34
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Re: Router/modem on off & DLM effects


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In reply to a post by yarwell:
we can configure settings with the DLM to be more lenient when required.
Can you say more about the three options you have ?


In here

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/super-...
Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 07-Jan-13 13:31:57
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Re: Router/modem on off & DLM effects


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yeah the speed (gamer) profile, which is the one zen apparently default to.

To RobertoS thats also how I know that they all start on 6db but its the sensitivity that changes depending on the profile configured.

BT Infinity 2 Since Dec 2012 - Estimate 65.9/20 - Attainable peak 110/36 - Current Sync 71/20
Standard User kasg
(experienced) Mon 07-Jan-13 18:53:57
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Re: Router/modem on off & DLM effects


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In reply to a post by systemx:
In reply to a post by yarwell:
we can configure settings with the DLM to be more lenient when required.
Can you say more about the three options you have ?


In here

http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/super-...

Yes, I know about all that, but (most) ISPs, including Plusnet, had previously denied that they could change it. Chris has now said that they can, although he didn't mention three options, that was yarwell.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Fri 26-Sep-14 02:23:11
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Re: Router/modem on off & DLM effects


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In reply to a post by superspeed:
Yes that is correct and DLM is a pain but that doesn't answer my question.

I can't find anything that says, Ofcom requires isp's/wholesale, to use DLM on broadband lines.


I will complaint to ofcom and asked ofcom to tell BT to get rid of DLM. Because DLM is evil things to quickly reduced your sync rate and push interleaved on.

DLM is pure evil by BT.
Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Fri 26-Sep-14 07:56:37
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In reply to a post by superspeed:
I have always turned it off and for security. No way am I leaving my computer connected to the web 24/7. Power is getting more expensive and it's a waste of energy but I know what you are saying.
Your computer isn't connected to the web. It's connected to your router. The outside world doesn't even have an IP address for your computer.

The outside world can only attack your computer if you have chosen to initiate a conversation or if it's a server and you are using port forwarding. This is the inherent security of NAT ( https://www.grc.com/nat/nat.htm ). Now if/when Plusnet ever get their act together and roll out IPv6 (like some other ISPs eg AAISP, IDNet did a couple of years ago) your computer will have a a public facing address so can be targeted. But attacks will still have to through your router which will (should!) have a firewall.

I think most people would take the view that you are being excessively paranoid and possibly depriving yourself of some of the benefits of your connection by switching the router off when you're not actively using the internet. I think it's akin to unplugging all your appliances when you go to bed to avoid lightening strikes smile

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Standard User Andrue
(knowledge is power) Fri 26-Sep-14 08:01:38
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In reply to a post by superspeed:
That's good if you can get that speed but you can't beat a wired only connection. Much less hassle. wink
Now there I agree. Wireless is good if you have to be mobile but I all the places I'm likely to sit down with my laptop have a convenient Ethernet cable. Only my phone uses my wifi for any length of time.

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