Still happy to discuss the 38/2. It's just that you want to control the content of the thread too much. I did discuss it as part of a broader problem.

Not my fault if you want a thread to go in one direction and can't find others to oblige. Be less rigid.

2Mbps upload in proportion to 38Mbps download is stupid, 4Mbps would be much more sensible.

I can think of a few applications which will bottleneck on the upload even though they are primarily download oriented.

Even if Plusnet had went back to the plain old 38/10 product, it would still be good buy but the TalkTalk-ification of it and Plusnet as a whole really puts me off. Pity, I was considering switching to the 38/20 one once my contract had expired, it really was a nice and unique package.

The problem with the 38/20 was that Plusnet were paying for the 80/20 product to supply it. Which made no real sense to me. Also as has been said in a few places, it's very likely that people unable to get more than 55-60 on 78/20 would either join on or downgrade to it. As you were thinking of.

There's not a lot of point in offering a product that automatically cuts your number of top-end buyers but costs you the same. I expect the "clever" marketing guys didn't think of that. Just that 38/20 would sell well. Which it did, and no doubt made a small profit on paper.

Then the loss of top-end buyers was realised.

Openreach should have three products line up on FTTC:

80/40
40/20
20/10

Rant over!

Edited by adslmax (Fri 19-Jun-15 02:06:52)

Post deleted by RobertoS

I would be inclined to say upload a quarter of download so 80/20, 40/10, 20/5. The first two are existing products, the last would give the majority of ADSL users a significant improvement with a sensible upgrade path if in time they needed higher speeds. It's the current 40/2 that makes no sense to me.

Agree with that. 20/5 is a sensible option for a slower line or for people that don't stream content as much as others. 5 Meg upload would be a nice increase on the 1 Meg too.

To be honest, being on 11 / 1 (ADSL2+), I find it fine most of the time. I don't need HD quality streams, but it would be nice to have say 15 Meg and 3-5 Meg uploads for when I do the odd big upload.

In that sense, your 'quarter of download' rule would give me 2.75 Meg upload on my current D/L speeds. I would love that.

Now if Plusnet would increase their monthly usage limits to 100 Gig on their legacy products, that would be perfect.

I know, really annoying when someone posts unrelated replies on a thread potentially changing the discussion.

I disagree with 20/5. The BTw & BTo should have 80/40, 60/30, 40/20 and 20/10 instead.

Edited by adslmax (Fri 19-Jun-15 12:04:02)