I think it should be

15/5
30/10
60/20
90/30
120/40 (at a push)

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

I think it should be

15/5
30/10
60/20
90/30
120/40 (at a push)

I can understand that BTWholesale only limit with two or three products to all isp's. (I be very surprise if BTw and BTo will bring in 120/40. (but I don't think it will not gonna to happen) More likely 500/250 on G.Fast soon if the cabinet are 150-200 metre away,

Edited by adslmax (Fri 19-Jun-15 12:12:47)

Oh no its too late for any of the above now...

The above is the products they should released or had available..

They also should have had the configurations so that connections could achieve the full speed of their package... so 80 and 74 ...

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In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

I think it should be

15/5
30/10
60/20
90/30
120/40 (at a push)

I can understand that BTWholesale only limit with two or three products to all isp's. (I be very surprise if BTw and BTo will bring in 120/40. (but I don't think it will not gonna to happen) More likely 500/250 on G.Fast soon if the cabinet are 150-200 metre away,

Whilst you post some spectacular [censored]. I do hope your right as 500/250 would make my juicy.

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In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

They also should have had the configurations so that connections could achieve the full speed of their package... so 80 and 74 ...

What do you mean by that? Example?

It's a shame they have dropped the 40/20 product but I understand why they have done that. I think they should have gone with 40/10 though as dropping all the way to 40/2 is [censored].

I will probably remain with Plusnet once fibre is available though, I have no complaints and recently got a nice retention deal

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In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

They also should have had the configurations so that connections could achieve the full speed of their package... so 80 and 74 ...

What do you mean by that? Example?

So a line that can sync at full 80000/20000 Kbps can only get a throughput of around 74-76Mbps, it should be configured so that the line can sync at a higher rate... maybe 88000/22000 so it can test at 80/20 instead of 74/18

Without trying to come across pedantic, they sell 38 and 76 downstream.

I guess the switch from 38/20 to 38/2 was all about "buying market" and differentiating against the likes of TalkTalk.

I wonder if this is coincidence, but this seems to have happened quite quickly after they've offered their TV package to unlimited extra customers - they really want more people on the more expensive package, since presumably the margins are better?

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So a line that can sync at full 80000/20000 Kbps can only get a throughput of around 74-76Mbps, it should be configured so that the line can sync at a higher rate... maybe 88000/22000 so it can test at 80/20 instead of 74/18

Ah, I see what you mean. The problem is you open a can of worms there. VDSL2 data rates are defined by a standard, so we can set an exact figure and know what it means, and that is all Openreach are selling to ISPs/wholesalers. It is protocol and application agnostic and does not vary with network configurations like MTU or IPv6. "Throughput" or "download" however comes in all sorts of flavours, what are you going to use because for each one you would have a different number. Presumably you would stick to something coming out of the modem, but that still leaves PPP data rate, IP data rate, IP payload, TCP payload, UDP payload, application payload... why should one be picked over another, it is somewhat arbitrary. Probably the most sensible is to plump for IP payload, as this leaves things open and agnostic to the variable end-user protocol and application (but also their variable overheads), and is how ISPs currently arrive at 76 Mb/s. We still have network variables that can change this at any time, so I don't think it's a good idea personally. Just stick with the old plan IMO

Edited by deleted (Sat 20-Jun-15 16:33:15)