Interesting thoughts

1. Have tried to spot this 'cap' and not obvious across the speed test user base
2. If it existed then PlusNet would have to advertise a lower speed since hitting the 10% up to 38 Mbps and up to 76 Mbps should be almost impossible.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I wonder if all FTTC IP Profiles have dropped by 0.5Mbps? That would reduce BTW Cloud backhaul usage considerably.

Wouldn't make much of a dent. would be negligible. Top speeds affect usage far less than you might think once they're beyond a certain level.

All the P2P stuff and downloads would slow. I'm discounting browsing, email, gaming and catch-up TV streaming for example. Just stuff that goes full belt if it can get it.

Note I said all IP Profiles. Not just the high-speed ones. There are vast numbers still on ADSLx, and most of those are well below the maximum for their product.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Interesting thoughts

1. Have tried to spot this 'cap' and not obvious across the speed test user base
2. If it existed then PlusNet would have to advertise a lower speed since hitting the 10% up to 38 Mbps and up to 76 Mbps should be almost impossible.

I bet there are no Plusnet FTTC customers able to get 76mbps Note the FTTC bit as they also do have some FTTP customers Who seem to fair a little better as far as throughput goes in both directions certainly closer to the head line product speeds 80/20

As for their 40/10 or 40/2 customers i don't know if this affects them or by how much, but i would guess it would be less noticeable ,

Those who will notice it more are those who sync at the full 80/20 rate as said 2 years of being a plusnet customer not once did i get over 74.20mbps (PN ip set at 78mbps) less(72-3mbps) if it was set to what it would normally default to 77.4 or if g.inp 77.2

But is that advertised upto 76mbps max throughput or sync speed ? If throughput how could their claim of 10% of their customer base be proved or disproved, without a reliable impartial independent source ? Also if the 76mbps figure is representative of throughput then they should change their advertising to reflect the truth, if we had indisputable proof ASA would listen

Edited by tommy45 (Fri 21-Aug-15 17:28:23)

I read some of the ASA stuff this morning and I don't think they even know the difference.

I believe everyone thinks they mean sync, and it can be read like that, until you find the bit that says speeds can go down at busy times. That would probably make a nonsense of any 10% claims by any bulk ISP.

Perhaps it means 10% of the customer base can get that speed at some time of some days?

In reply to a post by StephenTodd:

Perhaps it means 10% of the customer base can get that speed at some time of some days?

more like 10% of their FTTH customers , as none of their FTTC customers will be able to achieve that advertised headline speed, if it is referring to actual throughput regardless of time of day,

I find it so strange because when my parents was on FTTC 40/20 (BT IP Profile set at 74.22Mb but PN IP Profile set at 40Mb and they getting better throughput speed of 38.5Mb) and now my parents was on FTTC 80/20 (BT IP Profile set at 77.35Mb but PN IP Profile set at 77.2Mb) and they only getting throughput speed of 73.7Mb.

So, 40Mbps give u 38.5Mbps is pretty good. (1.5Mbps less is spot on)
But, 80Mbps give u 73.7Mbps is a massive gap (6.3Mbps less is terrible one) as I mean 80Mbps should be around 76Mbps throughput! (around 4Mbps less)

Edited by adslmax (Sat 22-Aug-15 00:42:21)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

All the P2P stuff and downloads would slow. I'm discounting browsing, email, gaming and catch-up TV streaming for example. Just stuff that goes full belt if it can get it.

Note I said all IP Profiles. Not just the high-speed ones. There are vast numbers still on ADSLx, and most of those are well below the maximum for their product.

People are hardly ever using their full whack. It's why the peak time usage on BTW FTTC is <500kb/s.

Slow someone downloading at full pelt their downloads will slow. Resulting in them downloading at their new full pelt for longer and adding additional load to the network when they would be finished at the higher speed.

Edited by deleted (Sat 22-Aug-15 01:48:45)

In reply to a post by tommy45:

But is that advertised upto 76mbps max throughput or sync speed ? If throughput how could their claim of 10% of their customer base be proved or disproved, without a reliable impartial independent source ?

Throughput, and Samknows boxes.