In the overall scheme of things, does this really matter?

In reply to a post by broadband66:

In the overall scheme of things, does this really matter?

Yes i think that it does as those who are fortunate enough to sync at the full rate
Are unable to achieve their lines full potential if with plusnet, Also they state that they don't slow customers down when this is clearly not the case, It's the deception that bugs me
And also plusnet not giving their customers a choice to opt out of their traffic shaping that they like to call prioritisation if the customer does not want or need it
This would most probably result in the secondary IP profile being disabled or set in such away that it no longer has any negative effect on those customers throughput

I would also think that if they provided this option, those who are suffering peak time issues would see an improvement , at least it would be clearer of who's domain the underlying cause for the peak issues lay in i believe that their traffic management may in some cases amplify the effects end users see

Or goaded by the provocative style, which he jolly well knows.

I only say that when someone asks me to publish/disclose information I am unable to release.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Ever heard of load-spreading? And queuing theory?

Yes. Even worked for ISPs alongside capacity planning bods. Small downstream increases make virtually no impression on network load. Even doubling speeds once a customer has something approaching superfast only increases bandwidth demand by perhaps 30-40%.

The biggest component in bandwidth issues is about statistical contention - selling too much of the overall bandwidth available to a single customer. Minor reductions to bandwidth across a big customer base won't make much of a dent because, as I said, very, very few customers are using anywhere near their full capacity at any one time. Average speeds across a cohort may perhaps be 40Mb, in which case forcibly lowering that average to 38Mb isn't going to make a massive impression in overall load. Even if everyone were maxing out all the time it'd only drop usage by 2.5%.

Edited by deleted (Mon 24-Aug-15 23:16:00)

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

I look forward to the moans when people get Gig speeds and that it never gets that

I'd quite like to see speeds advertised Comhem-style when they are being delivered over networks that aren't rate adaptive.

BT Wholesale kinda allude to it in their speed test where they give an acceptable throughput range.

I've just check my modem stats and noticed its managed to claw back around 1500kbps of the lost 3000kbps attainable sync, so powered it off for 5 mins and then back on and I've gone

from:

Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 22968 Kbps, Downstream rate = 65192 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 64673 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps

to:

Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 22621 Kbps, Downstream rate = 65428 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 66008 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps

I've now got to wait for Plusnet to update until I will see the throughput but BTw reports my profile as

IP Profile for your line is - 63.82 Mbps

So what will Plusnet set it as??

PN will set as 63.8 Mb (probably 63.7 Mb)

Please explain what a difference of 3% will do to a user who is watching catchup tv, browsing the web, uploading photos to "the Cloud", downloading an update, etc.

A bit.

Or so.

Per millisecond.