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Moving to a new network was surely a golden opportunity for Plusnet to move in to the 21st century with IPv6.
Today, we've had confirmation that not only does the new network not support IPv6, they are not saying "coming soon" which I would have expected, but they've no timescale for introducing it!
Personally, I would have thought moving to IPv6 at the same time as moving users to a new platform would be a very unwise decision. Better to do them separately.
To do them at the same time would make troubleshooting etc. that much harder - had the network migration gone wrong, their equipment or the switch to IPv6.
There is also a question of how much of the end users equipment supports and is configured for IPv6.
Finally, I note BT have not yet released their IPv6 firmware for the HH5A/the new Plusnet modem though I imagine that's ready.. but will require rolling out firmware updates first.
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Moving to a new network was surely a golden opportunity for Plusnet to move in to the 21st century with IPv6.
Today, we've had confirmation that not only does the new network not support IPv6, they are not saying "coming soon" which I would have expected, but they've no timescale for introducing it!
Personally, I would have thought moving to IPv6 at the same time as moving users to a new platform would be a very unwise decision. Better to do them separately.
Wrt to moving users to IPv6 simultaneously, perhaps you are right. However, for the new network not even to support it after years of trialling seems very odd.
The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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Just done that and got...
1 lo0.10.central10.pcl-bng02.plus.net 195.166.130.151 10.456 ms 10.863 ms 10.595 ms Your first hop is to a central router? How odd. Are you not using a router yourself?
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Edited by Andrue (Sat 09-Jan-16 14:46:20)
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Wrt to moving users to IPv6 simultaneously, perhaps you are right. However, for the new network not even to support it after years of trialling seems very odd.
I haven't seen any comment from Plusnet about the new network supporting/not supporting IPv6.
However, I would lay money on the fact that if they said this it means:
1. The new network 'supports' IPv6 in that it is IPv6 capable - they can route IPv6 traffic over it and assign IPv6 addresses to the network equipment etc.
2. They have decided not to 'support' (i.e. rollout) IPv6 for their customers to play with/use at the present time (as above rolling out a new network and IPv6 at the same time is not advisable)
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Just done that and got...
1 lo0.10.central10.pcl-bng02.plus.net 195.166.130.151 10.456 ms 10.863 ms 10.595 ms Your first hop is to a central router? How odd. Are you not using a router yourself?
Yes, but it's a Ubiquiti edge router Poe, via btor modem.
I'm reasonably sure I posted the results in the right order!
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Just done that and got...
1 lo0.10.central10.pcl-bng02.plus.net 195.166.130.151 10.456 ms 10.863 ms 10.595 ms Your first hop is to a central router? How odd. Are you not using a router yourself?
Yes, but it's a Ubiquiti edge router Poe, via btor modem.
I'm reasonably sure I posted the results in the right order!
Some equipment hides itself from packet tracing. I use a pfSense firewall, doing PPPoE through a HG612, with a works ADSL connection too. For this Multi-Wan configuration there is a documentation entry This happens on Multi-WAN due to the way that route-to and reply-to work. pf(4) policy routing(route-to/reply-to) does not decrease the IP TTL when forwarding packets, so the router does not appear as a hop.
So the first thing I see is a central.
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| C:\Users\aw1>tracert ntp.plus.net
Tracing route to ntp.plus.net [212.159.6.9]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 10 ms 12 ms 10 ms lo0.10.central11.pcl-bng03.plus.net [195.166.130.165] 2 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms irb.11.PCL-CR02.plus.net [84.93.249.98]
3 11 ms 11 ms 17 ms ae1.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.2] 4 48 ms 11 ms 13 ms po2.ptw-gw02.plus.net [195.166.129.39]
5 * * * Request timed out. 6 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms cdns01.plus.net [212.159.6.9]
Trace complete. |
Perhaps the Ubiquiti router is doing the same.
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Edited by awontroba (Sat 09-Jan-16 15:56:46)
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How many hops should i let the trace route perform?
I only get the three and then all i get are *
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It's mentioned here:-
https://support.aa.net.uk/IPv6_Only
As you say Joe public isn't aware of this stuff and just wants the internet to work.
A uk site on IPV6? that don't make sense since most people in the UK can not access them.
Adrian
Desktop machine now powered by windows 8 pro 64bit, no dreaded metro and Linux , laptop by Linux
Plusnet FTTC
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Also, carrier grade NAT will need to be increasingly deployed on IPv4 so that IP addresses can be shared. This means, for people on CGN, they can no longer open up listening ports for things like mail, web & ftp servers, peer to peer software, VoIP/SIP and online games.
If the customers had IPv6 in addition to their CGN IPv4 addresses, they could open up listening ports and communicate with each other without issue.
Which most people have no idea about and do not care about as long as things are working.
At the end of the day, if there was that much of a rush to get the UK to IPv6 then it would be on the way to being done, but it seems like most of the larger providers are not rushing to get it sorted.
Adrian
Desktop machine now powered by windows 8 pro 64bit, no dreaded metro and Linux , laptop by Linux
Plusnet FTTC
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Which most people have no idea about and do not care about as long as things are working.
That's just it, CGN can and will stop things from working. BT, who have already done some implementation of CGN, have implemented an opt-out. But as you say most people will not be aware why thier stuff stops working, or even be aware of what CGN is or does.
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