In reply to a post by blueacid:

That's the point though, the ISPs need to pull finger to make it so that more and more users CAN access them. Because increasingly it'll be hard to obtain IPv4 addresses for hosting new services etc. I speculate web hosting companies will start adding a surcharge for IPv4 but not charging for IPv6.

It also makes the interesting point: can an IPv4 ISP still say they're providing internet access when they don't have IPv6?

Good point.
Anyway you should realise by now that we are always slow in this country and are years behind other countries. ADSL was almost outdated when it came to the UK, FTTC is out of date as well.

don't expect the UK to change to IPv6 soon,

In reply to a post by gt94sss2:

You have to accept a) most of Plusnet's customers don't care about IPv6 and b) the BT Group is unlikely to run out of IPv4 addresses any time soon for their own customers..

In that case could you explain why Plusnet bought 'American' IP addresses from RIPE in the middle of last year which are still causing issue for some users today as websites refuse them access because they think they are not in the UK.

See http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1309... which is now 18 pages long.

https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/trends-visualizat...

We're in 29th place on that list at 2.2% (USA is in 8th at 16.7%)

These IP ranges were, and still are, held under ARIN and not RIPE.

As they belonged to a BT Group company, and were presumably unused blocks, it made sense to reallocate them to another company in the BT Group.

Are you suggesting that these IP addresses are/were BT Global Services USA branch owned?

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Are you suggesting that these IP addresses are/were BT Global Services USA branch owned?

I was under the impression they were obtained from Infonet, a Californian company. And yes, it's registered with ARIN not RIPE:

https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-146-200-0-0-1/pf...

In fact I wonder whether the fact that the IP addresses are registered with ARIN is part of the reason why the IP whois still references the Californian company, otherwise I have no idea why the IP whois could not have been corrected by now. Perhaps there needs to be an American point of contact on ARIN registered address space.

Edited by Oliver341 (Sun 10-Jan-16 14:04:47)

Yes.

It has been explained by Bob Pullen somewhere.

Infonet was acquired by BT many years ago. It was renamed BT Infonet, part of BT Global Services.

I believe the BT Group plc acquired Infonet back in 2005, which now forms part of BT Alliance within GS.

www.infonet.com get's redirected to GS.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Good point.
Anyway you should realise by now that we are always slow in this country and are years behind other countries. ADSL was almost outdated when it came to the UK, FTTC is out of date as well.

I suppose (sarcasm mode on) that is why the UK market is overflowing (not) with lots of different VDSL modem/router units from lots of manufacturers all of which work perfectly (not) as they have been tried and tested(not) on all those other foreign countries FTTC networks.

There is actually many good reasons to wait and not be an early adopter or at the forefront of tech stuff which may be abandoned by the main stream of prove to be a dead end for any further development.