Couldn't agree more. Sometimes, some people can't smell the coffee. I too am more than happy with Plusnet's performance of late on my line for the money I pay. I doubt if moving to any other ISP would improve anything at all. So why pay more?

In reply to a post by kasg:

Shower to you, perfectly good, stable, reliable and cheap ISP to me.

Cheap it may be and yes it is reliable in that it have not gone down and you could add stable in that as the service still works. But it is the speeds that are the problem, they are not consistent and my upload speed have never been great since I been with Plusnet.
Saying all of that I doubt it would be any difference with any of the larger providers.

TBH, broadband in this country compared to others is still pathetic and having to pay a line rental makes it flipping expensive.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Cheap it may be and yes it is reliable in that it have not gone down and you could add stable in that as the service still works. But it is the speeds that are the problem, they are not consistent and my upload speed have never been great since I been with Plusnet.

Sounds like an exchange issue or something closer to home.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/14623...
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/14638...

Those are what I get most of the time. The worst I've seen recently is:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/14636...

Pretty much every test whenever I run it comes out the same as the first two.Now their customer service..hmm. I've not had cause to use it myself but the forums seem a lot quieter than they were.

I will never get those speeds anyway, I live too far away from the cabinet, but whern I first went with Plusnet I was getting around 36Mb/s, here is the graph. It then been dropping,this is the test I done this morning.

When I first came onto FTTC and plusnet, there was a problem with the cabinet,, they changed the cover and somehow or other have knocked some cables and after I phoned Plusnet and BT sorted it, but after that my speed have never been the same, it did get better, but never back to how it was.

Sadly the company I was thinking of going back with after my plusnet contract is done have stopped doing broadband, so it seems like if I want broadband I have to stay on this silly BT network that still runs partly on old copper wires that are falling apart.

Sadly the company I was thinking of going back with after my plusnet contract is done have stopped doing broadband

Was that with the company offering Wireless BB?

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Sadly the company I was thinking of going back with after my plusnet contract is done have stopped doing broadband, so it seems like if I want broadband I have to stay on this silly BT network that still runs partly on old copper wires that are falling apart.

Trouble is it is not only the copper infrastructure that is falling apart, it the the competency of the BTOR engineers, I have been cut off twice in the past 2 months, both times in the small chamber outside the block of maisonettes where I live, the last time I actually spoke to the engineer who had cut me off whilst he still had the chamber open and all the wires exposed (inside a thick black round tube). Told him he had cut me off and of course he totally denied it and I was off line for 8 days. Now that I am back online my connection is well degraded instead of 78/20 connection I'm now getting 52/17, so obviously they have given me a bad pair - BUT because my phone line is 100% they won't do anything about it.

No Virgin or other cable around here so I'm stuck with BTOR infrastructure - don't know when/if we will ever get FTTP/FTTH, probably after I kick the bucket.

What we need is more choice so that BTOR have to get their act together.

In reply to a post by Apprentice:

Sadly the company I was thinking of going back with after my plusnet contract is done have stopped doing broadband

Was that with the company offering Wireless BB?

Yep, I was waiting for them to sort some things out and then go back, but now that Bloated toad have put FTTC in some of the villages, people have gone for that, which I do not blame them to be honest, cheaper and faster,.

the problem is Bloated toad is still missing out some people so there will still be people who will not be able to get a decent broadband connection.

In reply to a post by The_Voyager:

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Trouble is it is not only the copper infrastructure that is falling apart, it the the competency of the BTOR engineers, I have been cut off twice in the past 2 months, both times in the small chamber outside the block of maisonettes where I live, the last time I actually spoke to the engineer who had cut me off whilst he still had the chamber open and all the wires exposed (inside a thick black round tube). Told him he had cut me off and of course he totally denied it and I was off line for 8 days. Now that I am back online my connection is well degraded instead of 78/20 connection I'm now getting 52/17, so obviously they have given me a bad pair - BUT because my phone line is 100% they won't do anything about it.

No Virgin or other cable around here so I'm stuck with BTOR infrastructure - don't know when/if we will ever get FTTP/FTTH, probably after I kick the bucket.

What we need is more choice so that BTOR have to get their act together.
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Same here, only BTOR rubbish available, which is a shame and all these providers still rip us off which a sky high line rental and Plusnet even stopped the free calls now, not that I ever used them, so people are getting ripped of even more. Have to pay a extra £3 to get evenings and weekends.
The problem is people in this country just accepts it.

Take your line away from Plusnet. Pulse8 at £13pm, tiny call charges. £1pm for caller display if you want it.

Easily save money even allowing for the £2.50 PN broadband increase.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Take your line away from Plusnet. Pulse8 at £13pm, tiny call charges. £1pm for caller display if you want it.

Easily save money even allowing for the £2.50 PN broadband increase.

I was going to do something like that when I was changing providers and first went to plusnet, but I could not be bothered with the hassle at the time as i did not even have a phone line connected then. I don't use it and I have never given the number out to anyone,k it don't even have a phone connected to it.
For home use I still got my VoIP with sipgate that I used when I was with allpay, because everyone knows that number,k for the few who calls me on it, which is normally my Doctor and the hospital and my Dad. I put a tenner on that last year and still got £9,.

i may think about separating the line and broadband, but to be honest I am not sure if I want to stay with Plusnet, but then I am not sure who I would want to go to.
Going for one of the smaller providers is out of the question as they are pretty expensive and the other large providers I am not sure if I want to use them either.
Not interest in going directly with Bt, ok I know plusnet is owned by BT.
EE is a waste of space, by from what I have seen, yes i know that have been taken over by BT.
Sky, I do dot like the forced use of their router.
Vodafone , not sure if I am staying with them for their phone service after the contract ended, never mind wanting to use them for broadband, also the same as Sky, only able to use their router.
Talk Talk I will not touch with a bargepole.

Don't really give me a lot of choice left do it?