No, FTTP is always the best choice wherever it's available

Especially in my case where the D-Side UG copper is probably more than 50 years old. Currently I have no lingering concerns about that since recently having FTTP installed

The way I look at it is that you are going to have to make the move at some point, why not do it at your own pace rather than waiting as late as possible and trying to get a service installed when the rest of the country is trying to make the same change. I've had the last three weeks of a BT contract running alongside Lit Fibre and it's made things like porting the landline number out to VoIP so much easier than trying to cut things across all at once.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

If its an alt net then OR would be stupid to annoy existing users, and lose customers. The issues with VDSL or all DSL products around the globe is well known.

If what is an Altnet?

I have had a look at some providers and the price of the FTTC is the same even if I put in a postcode that have FTTP or one that don't, so as far as I can see they are not increasing the price of FTTC where FTTP is not available. This is only providers that use openreach networks.

In reply to a post by dect:

Adrian you need to thing more about what you're saying on here as you're not comparing like for like with your conspiracies.

Degrading a broadband service to encourage people to switch to FTTP is simply crazy, its like Cadbury's intentionally making Mars bars taste like [censored] to encourage people to buy Snicker bars instead. Saying supermarkets close tills to encourage people to use self service doesn't degrade the products you are buying it simply changes the purchasing experience.

To add, I revert to my previous comments

Cadburys don't make mars or snickers. Mars bars tase slightly better than Cadburys, but only slightly, still rubbish
Are you really that green that you can't see what companies are capable of doing? Closing normal checkouts is degrading the service, supermarkets will say it is the way people want to shop these days, but it is a load bull.

In reply to a post by jpm:

The way I look at it is that you are going to have to make the move at some point, why not do it at your own pace rather than waiting as late as possible and trying to get a service installed when the rest of the country is trying to make the same change. I've had the last three weeks of a BT contract running alongside Lit Fibre and it's made things like porting the landline number out to VoIP so much easier than trying to cut things across all at once.

I have to make up my mind pretty quickly as my contract is up at the end of next month. As I said above, providers seems to be giving better offers for FTTP than with FTTC, so pricewise making FTTP cheaper, but the majority have a 24 month contract, and it seems like 24-month contracts are starting to come to FTTC as well.

looking at some of the price comparison sites, it seems as if Shell has the cheapest 36Mb/s FTTC price at £22, 18 month contract.

you say we are going to have to make the move at some point, but it could be a while yet, while we do have openreach laying Fibre around here, we are not told how far they have got, so we could be another couple of years at least before the turn-off happens.

I don't really want to pay almost £30 a month for broadband to be honest.

As you take everything so literally I will do the same to show how infuriating you are.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Are you really that green

I am not green but more of a brownie colour 🤣

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

looking at some of the price comparison sites, it seems as if Shell has the cheapest 36Mb/s FTTC price at £22, 18 month contract.

Now try reading some experiences of Shell customers, and you'll find out why.

Shell currently tops the Ofcom complaints league table, having managed to exceed even Talktalk:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/04/ofcom-...

And they've held that spot for at least a year:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2022/07/ofcom-...
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2022/10/ofcom-...
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/01/shell-...

Are you really so poor that you'd subject yourself to this for the sake of £3 per month?

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I have to make up my mind pretty quickly as my contract is up at the end of next month. As I said above, providers seems to be giving better offers for FTTP than with FTTC, so pricewise making FTTP cheaper, but the majority have a 24 month contract, and it seems like 24-month contracts are starting to come to FTTC as well.

...we are going to have to make the move at some point, but it could be a while yet, while we do have openreach laying Fibre around here, we are not told how far they have got, so we could be another couple of years at least before the turn-off happens.

I don't really want to pay almost £30 a month for broadband to be honest.

Have you decided against having zzoomm 150Mbps FTTP on a 12 month contract for less than £30 per month if available? I know you mentioned them previously and don't need that speed; or would you rather re-contract with PN FTTC and stay on the OR network rather than cease and/or migrate the xDSL service? The later option of staying with PN, at this stage and on balance, does seem to perhaps be the least troublesome choice.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Now try reading some experiences of Shell customers, and you'll find out why.

Shell currently tops the Ofcom complaints league table, having managed to exceed even Talktalk:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/04/ofcom-...

And they've held that spot for at least a year:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2022/07/ofcom-...
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2022/10/ofcom-...
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/01/shell-...

Are you really so poor that you'd subject yourself to this for the sake of £3 per month?

My brother have been with Shell for a while now, last week he recontracted £21 for 36Mb/s, which is a good price, he was thinking of going elsewhere and go for social tariff as he is retired, but Shell did him a good deal and as he said I don't have to go up to change things over. The only bad part is the router and that is not bad in itself, just an ugly big box.

As for being poor for the sake of 3 months, I could if I really wanted to pay more for broadband, I could go to 1Gbit if I wanted to. TBH I don't really want to pay for broadband at all, no more than I want to pay for gas or electric, but it is something we need these days.