Sky still unbundling

Just noticed Sky have unbundled more exchanges there during July. Was glad to see mine listed there.

Good to see they are back at the unbundling

Where did you see this information ? link please .

As Sky have said there not unbundling any more exchanges this is in dead a turn around if true .

Samknows. and i just checked a few numbers from around here on Sky site and confirms they have LLU'ed here

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/NILDW

"Great news - you're in a Sky Broadband network area, so you can choose from Sky Broadband Everyday Lite or Unlimited. You can also benefit from free evening and weekend UK* landline calls with Sky Talk and you'll save £5 per month on Sky Broadband with any Sky Talk calls package. "

Below is a list of the ones done so far..

Stranraer 27/07/2010 Dumfries and Galloway Scotland
Mold 26/07/2010 Flintshire Wales
Ware 26/07/2010 Hertfordshire East
Braintree 23/07/2010 Essex East
Tranent 21/07/2010 East Lothian Scotland
Hereford 20/07/2010 Herefordshire West Midlands
Hatfield Woodhouse 20/07/2010 Doncaster Yorkshire & Humberside
Wrexham North 20/07/2010 Wrexham Wales
Omagh 16/07/2010 Omagh Northern Ireland
Ebbw Vale 16/07/2010 Blaenau Gwent Wales
Chipping Sodbury 15/07/2010 South Gloucestershire South West
Abergavenny 15/07/2010 Monmouthshire Wales
Londonderry Waterside 14/07/2010 Derry City Northern Ireland
Newport 14/07/2010 Isle of Wight South East
Thetford 13/07/2010 Norfolk East
Wrexham 13/07/2010 Wrexham Wales
Stourport 13/07/2010 Worcestershire West Midlands
Queensbury 13/07/2010 Bradford Yorkshire & Humberside
Boston 12/07/2010 Lincolnshire East Midlands
Barnoldswick 12/07/2010 Lancashire North West
Barnstaple 11/07/2010 Devon South West
Dumfries 10/07/2010 Dumfries and Galloway Scotland
Purfleet 10/07/2010 Thurrock East
Colne 10/07/2010 Lancashire North West
Ascot 09/07/2010 Windsor and Maidenhead South East
Cantley 09/07/2010 Doncaster Yorkshire & Humberside
Brixham 09/07/2010 Torbay South West
Glenboig 08/07/2010 North Lanarkshire Scotland
Sleaford 08/07/2010 Lincolnshire East Midlands
Bayston Hill 07/07/2010 Shropshire West Midlands
Woodham Ferrers 07/07/2010 Essex East
Buckley 06/07/2010 Flintshire Wales
Heswall 06/07/2010 Wirral North West
Bury St Edmunds 06/07/2010 Suffolk East
Corby 06/07/2010 Northamptonshire East Midlands
Perth 05/07/2010 Perth and Kinross Scotland
Ryhope 04/07/2010 Sunderland North East
Weymouth 04/07/2010 Dorset South West
Dorchester 04/07/2010 Dorset South West
Londonderry 04/07/2010 Derry City Northern Ireland
Slaithwaite 03/07/2010 Kirklees Yorkshire & Humberside
Hardingstone 02/07/2010 Northamptonshire East Midlands
Garforth 02/07/2010 Leeds Yorkshire & Humberside
Dalton In Furness 02/07/2010 Cumbria North West
Downhall 01/07/2010 Essex East
Yeovil 01/07/2010 Somerset South West
Mildenhall 30/06/2010 Suffolk East
Barrow-in-furness 30/06/2010 Cumbria North West
Toothill 30/06/2010 Swindon South West
Ripley 29/06/2010 Derbyshire East Midlands
Bideford 29/06/2010 Devon South West
Hawarden 29/06/2010 Flintshire Wales
Fencehouses 28/06/2010 Durham North East
Hardwicke 28/06/2010 Gloucestershire South West
Wombourne 28/06/2010 Staffordshire West Midlands
Coleraine 25/06/2010 Coleraine Northern Ireland
Kettering 25/06/2010 Northamptonshire East Midlands
Northallerton 25/06/2010 North Yorkshire Yorkshire & Humberside
Kesgrave 25/06/2010 Suffolk East
Wath Upon Dearne 24/06/2010 Rotherham Yorkshire & Humberside
Market Deeping 23/06/2010 Lincolnshire East Midlands
Grantham 23/06/2010 Lincolnshire East Midlands
Hadleigh - Essex 18/06/2010 Essex East
Rochford 18/06/2010 Essex East
Scunthorpe 17/06/2010 North Lincolnshire Yorkshire & Humberside
Ulverston 17/06/2010 Cumbria North West
Carterton 11/06/2010 Oxfordshire South East
Witney 11/06/2010 Oxfordshire South East

I am on the same exchange and was suprised to find out yesterday after years of only TalkTalk. Just waiting on BE/O2 now =S

In reply to a post by swervinc:

I am on the same exchange and was suprised to find out yesterday after years of only TalkTalk. Just waiting on BE/O2 now =S

o2/be should be available soon

o2's systems show 27th April 2010 as the date they began the install.

I rang be to ask them about it and they said "there is equipment there its just not hooked up"

Edited by BuckleZ (Sun 01-Aug-10 11:50:45)

Thats great news =) Its about time they started here. I was connected to FTTC from AAISP last week and as I'm quite far out it made a huge difference. I might be able to benefit from BE's network through AAISP when they begin to offer FTTC.

mold exchange is not showing sky/easynet llu ?

That list is directly from samknows. Just the latest enable exchanges listed in chronolocigal order.

Best way to know for definate is to use sky's checker on sky.com

In reply to a post by tommy45:

mold exchange is not showing sky/easynet llu ?

Thats "Mold West" you linked...

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/WNM

Just punched my telephone number in on the sky.com checker and it has said :-

Great news - Sky is expanding our broadband and calls network in your area! We'll be completing this rollout over the next 3 months.

Any idea on a more specific date?

My exchange is Hollinswood \ WNHLN

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

Great news - Sky is expanding our broadband and calls network in your area! We'll be completing this rollout over the next 3 months.

My friend gets this now on sky.com but he lives in a very small town with a very tiny exchange. Even BT has no date for 21CN services there, and there is no other LLU or cable.

So I think this has to be a mistake on the sky website.

Sounds like the same type as exchange as mine.

I know they recently unbundled a local exchange - a small village exchange on the edge of town so you never know.

Not sure I want to join Sky Broadband - don't like the sound of DLM.

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

Sounds like the same type as exchange as mine.

My mate is on this one - he gets a solid 8meg download sync, upload 448kbps for the last 3 years on Sky's Connect service. 17db attenuation.
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/THHW

I know they recently unbundled a local exchange - a small village exchange on the edge of town so you never know.

Not sure I want to join Sky Broadband - don't like the sound of DLM.

Always possible I guess; but when the exchange is smaller than a garage, you do start to wonder. The exchange in my town (Farnborough) is the size of a business office block.

Says the same for me and I live in the wilderness where there is just adsl for everything, so I reckon it's pie in the sky

I found out today that they have unbundled our exchange, that explains why they have been in town over the last few weeks, i thought they was telling lies when they had a board saying about cheap broadband, seems like they was not.



i don't think i am interested, happy with my broadband, at least I have no limits and no shaping and to be honest if I got Sky then i would have to get a T.v licence so I would not be saving any money

You can get Sky broadband without having to take the TV service now.

Regards,
Steve

In reply to a post by sjr:

You can get Sky broadband without having to take the TV service now.

Regards,
Steve

I just had a look, without Sky talk it is £15 a month, with Sky talk it is £10 a month, pretty good, but it makes me wonder how they can don it so cheap and what corners are cut.

I think I will stay as I am, I don't really want to give money to the devil

Hi BuckleZ i checked on the sky website and it says i would only be able to get 5megs and i am not far from the exchange(just over 1 mile )so it looks like that bt has not done the full asdl2 upgrades yet

I don't think they cut corners with the service other than perhaps with the offshore support, they use it more as a loss leader to entice you in to taking their other services, hence it being cheaper with Sky Talk because that's where they can make some money out of you. Murdoch doesn't give things away free or cheap because he's a philanthropist, there's always a motive that usually involves extracting more money out of you.

In reply to a post by sjr:

I don't think they cut corners with the service other than perhaps with the offshore support, they use it more as a loss leader to entice you in to taking their other services, hence it being cheaper with Sky Talk because that's where they can make some money out of you. Murdoch doesn't give things away free or cheap because he's a philanthropist, there's always a motive that usually involves extracting more money out of you.

So they do cut corners then, on support, I don't think I could go back to Indian call centres, bad enough with BT.

Sky tries to entice people to take other services and it seems like it works, with customers that are with Sky now spending more with sky. Saying that most people I know that have sky have cut back.

I am happy with what I got, the service is fine, it is a good price for what I get and it works, not going to upset the apple cart

they can do it cheaper because LLU has lower costs than BTw.

If I remember right you left entanet (when they were still good) for BT retail ouch.
Now you thinking sky LLU will be worse than BT retail? ouch again.

If its LLU then take it, no brainer, just dont take sky line rental.

Zyborg is on C&W LLU - I wouldn't drop that for Sky.

Sky DLM can be a right PITA!!!

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

they can do it cheaper because LLU has lower costs than BTw.

If I remember right you left entanet (when they were still good) for BT retail ouch.
Now you thinking sky LLU will be worse than BT retail? ouch again.

If its LLU then take it, no brainer, just dont take sky line rental.

You are behind the times.

You are correct I did leave entanet for BT, I thought BT broadband anywhere would be a good thing, with a mobile phone. It was not as good as I thought.

I left Bt a few months back and with ADSl24 Cable and Wireless network, whihc is why I said I have got a good service here.

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

Zyborg is on C&W LLU - I wouldn't drop that for Sky.

Sky DLM can be a right PITA!!!

Sky use DLM? Oh dear I will certainly not change then, I will also phone my mate and warn him as he was looking at Sky, but he gets !6Megabits on the cable and wireless network


I seen how Talk Talk DLM works, or don't as the case is most of the time

Sky's DLM is not even in the same league of annoyance as BT Wholesale's Profiling System. It has never caused me too much of an issue, with a temporary slow-down being rectified with a reboot at another time with a new profile. It does not take days of convincing like BT's system.

matt

It's still there and on a noisy line could cause big problems!

I thought he was still on BT ok fair enough.

sjy isnt the best true but compared to BT they great, was my point.

Regarding the checker saying 'Congratulations our Broadband & Calls are coming to your area'

It appears the checker is saying that for all exchanges.

I get this from their checker:

Great news - Sky is expanding our broadband and calls network in your area! We'll be completing this rollout over the next 3 months.
In the mean time we can offer you Sky Broadband Connect with up to 8Mb* download speeds and a monthly usage allowance of 40GB.
When the Sky network rollout is complete we'll automatically transfer you to our Sky Broadband Unlimited product with up to 20Mb* download speeds and truly unlimited monthly usage allowance.

I'm on a very small exchange with no other LLU providers. Surely they wouldn't give an actual timescale if it wasn't to go ahead?

In reply to a post by Zildjian285:

I get this from their checker:

Great news - Sky is expanding our broadband and calls network in your area! We'll be completing this rollout over the next 3 months.
In the mean time we can offer you Sky Broadband Connect with up to 8Mb* download speeds and a monthly usage allowance of 40GB.
When the Sky network rollout is complete we'll automatically transfer you to our Sky Broadband Unlimited product with up to 20Mb* download speeds and truly unlimited monthly usage allowance.

I'm on a very small exchange with no other LLU providers. Surely they wouldn't give an actual timescale if it wasn't to go ahead?

I have checked lots of small rural exchanges around me and every single one shows this. I would take this as an error on their systems.

Edited by BuckleZ (Sat 07-Aug-10 12:36:15)

Is there any way to confirm it?

I've emailed them as it's too expensive to phone, bet I'll get the standard reply

In reply to a post by matthewlowry88:

Sky's DLM is not even in the same league of annoyance as BT Wholesale's Profiling System. It has never caused me too much of an issue, with a temporary slow-down being rectified with a reboot at another time with a new profile. It does not take days of convincing like BT's system.

matt

My line is really long, so any automated system will still be a pain, at least with what I am using now I can phone the provider and get them to lower the SNR or use my router to lower the SNR and still get a good quality connection.

With DLM, if I did that and the system thinks that my line is unstable, even if it is not, then it will much things up.

If I needed to save a few quid, then yes sky would be my next choice now, but at the moment I don't, so I will be staying where I am.

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

Regarding the checker saying 'Congratulations our Broadband & Calls are coming to your area'

It appears the checker is saying that for all exchanges.

Sam knows is where I found out that Sky have unbundled our Exchange, but Sam knows have been known to be a bit iffy sometimes, so I went to Sky website to make sure, I just entered my number in again

Currently we estimate that the maximum download speed your line could support is 3.5Mb
Help
Great news - you're in a Sky Broadband network area, so you can choose from Sky Broadband Everyday Lite or Unlimited. You can also benefit from free evening and weekend UK* landline calls with Sky Talk and you'll save £5 per month on Sky Broadband with any Sky Talk calls package

I also thought it was a bit strange when II saw the Sky promo van in our city centre a few times, it was never hear before, and it said free broadband and calls, which I thought was a lie. I was going to go over and have a go at them about it, but I could not be bothered.

Seems it was not a lie.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

I thought he was still on BT ok fair enough.

sjy isnt the best true but compared to BT they great, was my point.

I had very few problems with Bt, the main problem was shaping and their profiling, My line is long and the service I use now is fine, it allows me to change my SNR, without giving me problems or any automated system trying to knock it back up

Unless Sky are rolling out LLU to all of their exchanges then I highly doubt they are going to unbundle an exchange with just over 100 lines.

Checker seems to think they are though - in 3 months time.

How big (or small) is your local exchange?

I'd like to know if Sky are actually going to unbundle my exchange because I don't want to switch providers and join a new contract if they are.

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

Unless Sky are rolling out LLU to all of their exchanges then I highly doubt they are going to unbundle an exchange with just over 100 lines.

Checker seems to think they are though - in 3 months time.

i doubt it either, even Talk Talk who seems to be trying to take over the country will not do that.

In reply to a post by Zildjian285:

How big (or small) is your local exchange?

I'd like to know if Sky are actually going to unbundle my exchange because I don't want to switch providers and join a new contract if they are.

According to sam knows

26,694 residential premises
1,728 non-residential premises.

But a lot of those residential ones are spread out, our exchange cover a wide area, even to people outside the city limits

have a look here

I just spoke to a Sky advisor online and he said the information is correct. I still find it very hard to believe as every single exchange that I check around here, even those with just a few hundred residential lines, are saying the same thing.

Chat InformationYou are now connected with Darren
Darren: Welcome to Sky, Home of HD. You're chatting to Darren. May I take your name please?

You: Hello. I'm interested in getting Sky Broadband but I'd like the unlimited "up to 20Mb" product. It doesn't look like it's available at my exchange yet, but when I put my phone number into your availability checker it says "Great news - Sky is expanding our broadband and calls network in your area! We'll be completing this rollout over the next 3 months." Could you confirm that is correct and possibly give me a rough date as to when that will happen?

Darren: Sorry we dont have dates when this would be updated

You: Ok, but is it correct that it will be upgraded over the next 3 months or is it an error with the Sky availability checker? Because a lot of people on the internet forums are getting the same message, even on very small exchanges.

Darren: Yes that is the correct information

You: Excellent. Do you know roughly how many exchanges Sky are planning on upgrading over the next 3 months?

Darren: NO sorry

Surely it'll be almost impossible for Sky to unbundle almost every exchange over the next 3 months?

There must be a fault as i just entered the details of a exchange with 234 residential lines and it came back as in the next 3 months .

The exchange is so small even BT have not enabled it for broadband and the residents of the village have a communal satellite system that provides there service over WIFI .

Edit: it seems that Samknows is now reporting said exchange as having ADSL now , so i will have to investigate a little more as im sure there is no ADSL at that exchange .

Edited by deleted (Sun 08-Aug-10 11:51:21)

I just got a reply to my email which asked if sky were unbundling my exchange as per the checker.

The reply I got was that Sky are extending their network, however it did tell me that the LLU services were only available in certain parts of the country but that I could have Connect which is excellent (I don't think so). It seems suspicious to me that they won't give a straight answer so I suspect that it's not the case that they are going to do this work to all the exchanges.
I have replied to them that in that case they should amend their checker to reveal the true state of play as it is misleading to say the least, if you didn't know better you could sign up to the connect package thinking you would be transfered to LLU within 3 months and that seems to be a falsehood, really not very honest and I'm not entirely sure it's legal

There are very very few non ADSL exchanges out there now.

BT's coverage is around 99% I believe.

Sounds as if Sky are just saying it so you sign up in the hope of getting the cheaper service.

It would not make business sense to unbundle an exchange with 100 lines!

They say the same for SWPM. Market 1 - line count given in Sam Knows is around 8,500 but this figure hasn't changed in over 5 years despite lots of building going on - both industrial and residential. I think the real number is now probably closer to 10,000.

No 21cn date here either. Im gonna add my query to the others Sky have had - see if I get the same non committal answer.. and if I do - tomorrow put in a call to OFCOM and Consumer Direct asking them to talk to Sky as this may be deceptive marketing.

According to Sky my exchange has been unbundled

Currently we estimate that the maximum download speed your line could support is 10 - 20Mb
Great news - you're in a Sky Broadband network area, so you can choose from Sky Broadband Everyday Lite or Unlimited.

According the Sam Knows though they haven't unbundled it, so who knows???

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/MYSCA

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

There are very very few non ADSL exchanges out there now.

BT's coverage is around 99% I believe.

Sounds as if Sky are just saying it so you sign up in the hope of getting the cheaper service.

It would not make business sense to unbundle an exchange with 100 lines!

That may well be the case , but i can confirm that Samknows is reporting Isfield NDIFS as having ADSL at the exchange and also Sky are reporting it as being upgraded in the next three months , it has no ADSL equipment in the exchange and is that 1% that BT do not provided any type of broadband service to .

Make of that what you will , but any body getting there hopes up may find they will be very disappointed as there is misinformation on Samknows and also of Sky checker and that's confirmed ......

Edit i have contacted Samknows and they have confirmed that the information on Isfield is incorrect and blame it on data being supplied by BT that the site automaticly updates with

Edited by deleted (Mon 09-Aug-10 16:14:45)

Just checked my exchange and a load of other random ones, all showing 3 months time.

Isn't it slightly illegal for them to advertise the promise that you will be upgraded to their unlimited package if it's never going to happen?

Called Ofcom and registered my concerns with them, but at this stage there's nothing they can do.

Edited by deleted (Tue 10-Aug-10 15:02:57)

Put in the call to OFCOM yesterday morning - after finding that Sky claim to be Un-bundling every exchange I checked round here - even a 40 odd line one in a village about 8 miles from here.

In reply to a post by warweezil:

Put in the call to OFCOM yesterday morning - after finding that Sky claim to be Un-bundling every exchange I checked round here - even a 40 odd line one in a village about 8 miles from here.

What kind of response did you get from Ofcom?

In July this year 84 exchanges were added to the Sky network and a further 281 exchanges are scheduled to be added between now and December 2010.

In reply to a post by Zildjian285:

I just spoke to a Sky advisor online and he said the information is correct. I still find it very hard to believe as every single exchange that I check around here, even those with just a few hundred residential lines, are saying the same thing.

Chat InformationYou are now connected with Darren
Darren: Welcome to Sky, Home of HD. You're chatting to Darren. May I take your name please?

You: Hello. I'm interested in getting Sky Broadband but I'd like the unlimited "up to 20Mb" product. It doesn't look like it's available at my exchange yet, but when I put my phone number into your availability checker it says "Great news - Sky is expanding our broadband and calls network in your area! We'll be completing this rollout over the next 3 months." Could you confirm that is correct and possibly give me a rough date as to when that will happen?

Darren: Sorry we dont have dates when this would be updated

You: Ok, but is it correct that it will be upgraded over the next 3 months or is it an error with the Sky availability checker? Because a lot of people on the internet forums are getting the same message, even on very small exchanges.

Darren: Yes that is the correct information

You: Excellent. Do you know roughly how many exchanges Sky are planning on upgrading over the next 3 months?

Darren: NO sorry

Surely it'll be almost impossible for Sky to unbundle almost every exchange over the next 3 months?

Cable and wireless came out with he same thing and still have not unbundled what they said they would. Sky would have to move quick, but saying that, we don't know how far advance it all is. Sky unbundling our exchange was a shock and it was kept secret

Mine was definitely done, placed the order for Sky Talk yesterday and when i go live on it the broadband order will follow

Will be nice to get away from TalkTalk and their random disconnects

In reply to a post by dsldude:

In July this year 84 exchanges were added to the Sky network and a further 281 exchanges are scheduled to be added between now and December 2010.

Where did you get this information from ? and obviously what 281 exchanges ?

In reply to a post by dsldude:

In July this year 84 exchanges were added to the Sky network and a further 281 exchanges are scheduled to be added between now and December 2010.

Any links to what the 281 exchanges are/will be?

They are monitoring it and are interested in learning how wide ranging these claims of forthcoming un-bundling are. OFCOM has new powers with regard to mis-selling (GC24) so these may come into play if this does prove to be a con - after all - one of the exchanges they claim to be about to unbundle is SWAGL put that in the Sam Knows checker and have a good laugh. It is a tiny 2 street village at the end of Wales!

Information is from a trusted sky source ,
but no I don't have further information on exact exchanges sorry,
would just advise to keep checking the availability checkers.

When someone has more news, please update. Sky have said the same 3 month thing to me so i'm pretty interested because i'm on a 1,336 line market 1 exchange.

OFCOM are watching this, it may be that Sky are using some trickery here to get you sign up all excited at the prospect of super-fast broadband coming to you exchan... "Oh sorry Due to unforseen circumstances....... but you will continue to benefit from out heavily contended connect package."

You could give OFCOM a call - ask to speak to Russ - and add your exchange to the list, so far just on my research they are doing every single exchange in 3 counties around me - including 1 exchange of 40-odd lines in a tiny village out on the coast at the end of this county.

Hi warweezil,

When you say 'Add my exchange to the list' what do you mean exactly?

Cheers

I used the landline checker for my exchange and it said the usual "Great news....!" message.

I then used check my address , confirmed it, only to then receive a different message saying "At present we are unable to provide our Sky Broadband Everyday Lite or Unlimited products in your area...." with no mention of any future upgrade. Both checkers can't be right, so Sky do indeed have a get out of Jail free card should folks complain about not getting LLU'd - "oh dear, the software messed up"

I'm definately complaining to OfCom as suggested, I almost fell for this and its at best deliberately misleading and at worst just plain lies!

Boris,

Exactly the same happened to me - Phone number says LLU and Address says not going to be LLU'd.

In reply to a post by chris6273:

Hi warweezil,
When you say 'Add my exchange to the list' what do you mean exactly?
Cheers

The guy I spoke to at OFCOM said that if I knew anyone in other areas that were also getting this message from the checker then it would be useful for OFCOM to be told as it would help them decide if this was just a glitch affecting a few exchanges or something potentially more worrying that would need investigating.

OFCOM now have powers to deal with mis-selling by ISP's, and the guy I spoke to agreed that signing people up on the promise of "imminent unbundling" - which didn't then happen - could be something for OFCOM to look at if it was a widespread practice. My suspicion here is its a deliberate attempt by Sky to mislead - they want market share even if it means loading even more people onto an already overloaded "up-to 8 meg" service. I bet they wouldn't be willing to release anyone from contract if (when) the promised unbundling doesn't happen.

I hope I am proven wrong.. it would mean we get unbundled at last - but considering a 40 odd line exchange in a tiny coastal village near here is on the list for unbundling I have a feeling its just a pipe-dream...or something worse.

Just My Opinion.... YMMV

Just took it again and it has changed to saying nothing about an upgrade. Has it done the same for anyone else?

In reply to a post by chris6273:

Just took it again and it has changed to saying nothing about an upgrade. Has it done the same for anyone else?

My exchange was due to be enabled back in 2006/2007, Sky gave me £5 a month connect and promised id be on LLU before June of that year. Of course it never happened so i moved away else where. They finally enabled my exchange last month and i'm moving back over at the start of September

In reply to a post by chris6273:

Just took it again and it has changed to saying nothing about an upgrade. Has it done the same for anyone else?

Yep, same here, no reference to upgrade at all now which in the case of my exchange will be correct given the few people on it.

Very annoying this, I'm sure more than a few people will have been fooled by the misleading information including myself!

Edited by deleted (Thu 26-Aug-10 18:46:43)

Message has gone on mine now.

Ahh well never mind.

Same on mine, message disappeared this is despite me contracting sky by email and having 2 emails back insisting that the work was going ahead, I did tell them that I thought it was a ploy to attract more customers and that in my view it was deceitful and that I would believe it when it happened and that I was very suspicious that it would happen at all.
I was told I was wrong and that numerous exchanges were being upgraded but they couldn't give a timeframe, although when I've thought about it, it did say "in your area" not necessarily in your exchange so it didn't ring true from the start

Spoke to someone at OFCOM this morning. Less helpful than the last guy, but he says that OFCOM wouldn't have acted upon this yet and if anything it would have been the ASA - as it was advertised on the site. I feel that this shows where OFCOM is unfit as a regulator - the information was generated as a result of a line check of a specific number - NOT as a general advert.

As ever - UK consumers have little protection against blatant abuse from big companies. Sky have lost any chance of ever having my broadband - even if they did un-bundle here. I don't trust them. Im on the phone to Sky at the moment - so far its a 30 min call.. the sad thing is no one there seems to understand how LLU works they are telling me that ifBT havent fixed the exchnage there is nothing they can do I am now waiting to be called by their "broadband expert". I will post more later

Im writing to Sky and copying it to several other places. The "Broadband Expert" from Sky that called me back first claimed it was a glitch that confused my exchnage - SWPM (samknows line count around 9000) with another exchange SWPMQ (samknows line count around 260!!) I have at least been officially told today that nothing is planned here for at least 12 months.

They say its not a problem.. I wonder how many people the conned into migrating to Sky Connect in the mistaken belief that they would soon migrate to L a decent unbundled service? Looks like the bad customer service rep that Sky has is well deserved.

They must have "confused" most of the exchanges in the country then, bad excuse if you ask me

Does anyone know if Sky have released a list of the proposed Exchanges to be upgraded?

There don't seem to be any other than those already confirmed, put your phone number in the checker messages have changed

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/sky/t/3884204-re-sk...

Edited by deleted (Sun 29-Aug-10 23:00:32)

I check Samknows every few days and noticed that my exchange has now been enabled for Sky.

In reply to a post by stephen79:

I check Samknows every few days and noticed that my exchange has now been enabled for Sky.

My exchange has been enabled too...

Here is the latest batch that are now live

Aberconwy Conwy Wales
Armadale West Lothian Scotland
Bagshot Surrey South East
Baldslow East Sussex South East
Birchwood Lincolnshire East Midlands
Brynmawr Blaenau Gwent Wales
Chepstow Monmouthshire Wales
Cowes Isle of Wight South East
Cross Hills North Yorkshire Yorkshire & Humberside
Dundonald Castlereagh Northern Ireland
Eglinton Derry City Northern Ireland
Elgin Moray Scotland
Fraserburgh Aberdeenshire Scotland
Gainsborough East Riding of Yorkshire East Midlands
Glynneath Neath and Port Talbot Wales
Goole East Riding of Yorkshire Yorkshire & Humberside
Greenhithe Kent South East
Grimsby North East Lincolnshire Yorkshire & Humberside
Guiseley Leeds Yorkshire & Humberside
Harlescott Shropshire West Midlands
Hawkwell Essex East
Haydon Wick Swindon South West
Limavady Limavady Northern Ireland
Lincoln Lincolnshire East Midlands
Liverpool North Liverpool North West
Llandudno Conwy Wales
Londonderry Brookhall Derry City Northern Ireland
Nelson Lancashire North West
New Mills Derbyshire North West
Oswestry Shropshire West Midlands
Peterhead Aberdeenshire Scotland
Pontardawe Neath and Port Talbot Wales
Prestatyn Denbighshire Wales
Rhyl Denbighshire Wales
Rhymney Caerphilly Wales
Ryde Isle of Wight South East
Sandown Isle of Wight South East
Scarborough North Yorkshire Yorkshire & Humberside
Shrewsbury Shropshire West Midlands
St Asaph Denbighshire Wales
Stamford Lincolnshire East Midlands
Stratton St Margaret Swindon South West
Tonyrefail Rhondda Cynon Taff Wales
Tredegar Blaenau Gwent Wales
Washington Sunderland North East
Wem Shropshire West Midlands
Whitby North Yorkshire Yorkshire & Humberside

Nice to see quite a few around here getting done, Eglinton is a very small semi-rural exchange with around 3.5k line

Edited by BuckleZ (Thu 14-Oct-10 13:54:06)

Nothing in South West Wales again... Thats the REAL South West.. the often forgotten piece WEST of Swansea.

Edited by deleted (Thu 14-Oct-10 23:20:37)

How did you get that list of the latest exchanges?

Old thread I know...

If/When Sky unbundle more exchanges, can someone post a list on this topic?

Cheers

Or just check this page...

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/llu/exchanges/easy...



Matt

Yup, checked that but apparently it isn't always up to date

That is true...but likely one of the first places it will be shown.

Matt

Post deleted by Finguz

Mine too was unbundled around this time too

Not always mine was unbundled but not on samknows, better to try skychecker itself

Hence likely As I have said before, Samknows accuracy is to be debated as we come across exchanges that to this day list LLU, when they have none and the reverse listing no LLU when in fact they do have it/them.

Matt

Yup

Anyone know the word on how much of a delay there is between a newly Sky LLU'ed exchange ready to take orders and the Sky Checker being updated to accommodate it? (I'm checking it every night at the moment )