In reply to a post by Zenops:

OpenDNS parental filtering solution meets the needs of Mumsnet.

Can't be implemented by the user on some ISP supplied routers though, so the "whole connection" protection needs the ISP to solve it. Which could admittedly be by using OpenDNS FamilyShield DNS servers.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

also whats the publicized procedure for people getting false positives removed of this centralized list?

You will probably have to send a begging email to someone at Huawei who will X reference your details on a number of global databases then submit your site for manual approval and NSA/GCHQ vetting before its white-listed!

They will probably want your credit card details, address and all sort of other things so someone later can turn round and say 'it was all that persons fault - send in the special forces!'

Personally, and feel free to call me paranoid, I think this is the first step and is just to get the technology in place.

Once there, who knows what will be blocked by choice or otherwise.

We don't live in a police state. Yet. Cameron needs to really think about what he's doing here - it could destroy any trust in the conservatives (in so much as you can trust a political party (elected dictatorship)).

Trust, i wouldn't trust any politician or the empty promises they make,

As for a fist step, of course this is what this is really, a way of sneaking it in with the minimum amount of scrutiny by using the "think of the children" rhetoric The UK and USA want to control the internet so that they can control what we are able to use the net for, they want us to be sheep
Camoron hasn't got a clue, about anything, He even misplaced ? his daughter!!

In reply to a post by tommy45:

Daily Fail is about as useful /truthful as government both are hypocrites and spout bull excrement regularly , does any one apart from your avid torry voter actually read and take notice of what they print,

Also Adrian kennard talks a lot of sense, as the point he made regarding the number of people who allegedly have stumbled up on CP or terrorist sites is exaggerated is very true, that's how they government work to pass laws ect that are not really needed take the DEB they did that via the backdoor almost, that should have been re -peeled the lib dims made noises/told lies about doing that before they got elected ,

Thats the problem with all this nonsense, once it's brought in it's there to stay, and some times will pave the way for more of the same

The idea of people accidently finding child porn etc. has always been stupid.

Its amazing in itself that people believe that happens. Especially on a large enough scale to warrant the IWF.

this country has always been pro capitalist meaning its a strong "let the market decide" the market has talktalk who already supply isp side filters, so the question is if the demand and need is there, why arent talk talk owning the market, and why are mums not all using talktalk already.

Edited by Chrysalis (Fri 26-Jul-13 20:55:11)

In reply to a post by Zenops:

I have written a blog on this subject which will be going live on our website soon here; http://www.zen.co.uk/blog.

our position is supportive of Active Choice but not default on, Mandatory Blocking.

Do I take it that Zen will not be providing information on customer filtering choices to the authorities?