Seems all mute now, looks like they abandoned rollout on my street lol.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

Seems all mute now, looks like they abandoned rollout on my street lol.

Yeah I stole your rollout, sorry!

We're still building our Full Fibre network in your area.
Register your interest and we'll be in touch when we've identified the best way to connect your home.

Edited by CarlTSpeak (Fri 08-Apr-22 23:05:49)

haha.

Well it was a false alarm, planned again.

Edited by Chrysalis (Tue 12-Apr-22 02:42:42)

Similar situation where I live. CityFibre (back when they were called FibreNation) dug the street, along with the rest of this small town, at some point in early 2020 - I can't remember when, 2020 is so long ago! There are FibreNation branded manhole covers up and down the road, but the whole thing went completely quiet soon afterwards.

CityFibre's checker says they're "building in your area now, but we've not got to you yet", but as it has now been 2+ years since the street was dug, I'm no longer holding my breath! Virgin Gig1 is also available in this street, but if I'm going to go full fibre I'd much rather stay with Zen than suffer the Virgin experience.

Their rollout does seem very slow to finish once they start on an area compared to openreach.

I thought they abandoned "building in your area", because when i check streets where they currently are doing works in my city it just says the its planned message. Most of these streets have not progressed for weeks, they started then equipment and manning vanished as if they had to work on another area or something.

Some more planned works appeared on a street near me after a few months of nothing at all of which I will check out myself when the works start if there is actual activity or if its more ghost roadworks, so really would love to know more of the inner workings of how their rollouts work, but trying to get info out of them is like getting blood out of a stone. I have noticed as well zen appear to have removed their cityfibre FTTP checker live result instead just offering register your interest, maybe too many queries and not enough answers upstream from cityfibre?

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 28-May-22 21:18:09)

I agree that it seems impossible to get details out of CityFibre. But Twitter @ZenInternetHelp made enquiries for me (road works in my street in March 2021 but CityFibre still working elsewhere) and they told me that Zen have recently agreed to supply CityFibre to many more towns. They are hoping things will get going by September - we'll see.

Edited by stevejm (Sat 28-May-22 21:33:23)

Seems in many cases they build or extend the core network and return later to handle the FTTH bit. They only use PIA for the customer drops so build their own network past every premises, or at least pole and chamber, they need to cover. VMO2 do the same thing when building FTTP via PIA: own core duct and cabinets connecting to Openreach infrastructure.

Far from uncommon to have a first dig then overlay that with FTTP microduct.

Doesn't mean they've forgotten anyone, presumably it reflects the resources they have available and the build requirements. The build plans are done by professionals who know what they're doing, so there's obviously a method to the apparent madness.

You can actually see this from companies that are exclusively or largely PIA, too. From the POV of streetworks you'll see a bit of duct unblocking between chambers, some cabling work, some new chambers next to Openreach nodes, then later on a bunch more duct unlocking in adjacent areas as they branch out from the core to Openreach DPs and hit blockages on the way.

In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:

Seems in many cases they build or extend the core network and return later to handle the FTTH bit. They only use PIA for the customer drops so build their own network past every premises, or at least pole and chamber, they need to cover. VMO2 do the same thing when building FTTP via PIA: own core duct and cabinets connecting to Openreach infrastructure.

Far from uncommon to have a first dig then overlay that with FTTP microduct.

Doesn't mean they've forgotten anyone, presumably it reflects the resources they have available and the build requirements. The build plans are done by professionals who know what they're doing, so there's obviously a method to the apparent madness.

You can actually see this from companies that are exclusively or largely PIA, too. From the POV of streetworks you'll see a bit of duct unblocking between chambers, some cabling work, some new chambers next to Openreach nodes, then later on a bunch more duct unlocking in adjacent areas as they branch out from the core to Openreach DPs and hit blockages on the way.

Ok thanks for the information, makes some sense.

In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:

They only use PIA for the customer drops

What does this mean? (I know what PIA is!) I'm seeing CF build to the curtilage and leave a toby. Or are you talking about dropping from a pole, rather than a duct connection?

I've seen three approaches used by CityFibre (and VirginMedia on their new stuff).

Microtrench to the curtilage and a toby.
Use PIA and have their equivalent of the CBT on the pole.
Use PIA underground all the way to the house.

CF started doing all their installs using the first approach, but I've seen all three in use now. Seems to depend on the state of the Openreach estate and if cables are directly buried.

https://goo.gl/maps/3bskvd2LgFmSMsT38 - this has a CF box on the pole and if you go down Goodwood Close next to it you will see micro trenching and CF Tobys, so a mix in one area.