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Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Fri 21-Feb-25 00:28:03
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Re: Peak hours JITTER on BQM


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In reply to a post by PCJM40:
If you're unhappy with the Zen service and believe something needs to be fixed by Zen (either to the Openreach bit or to the Zen backhaul) then its best to raise it with them as they are the only ones who can look into it for you and if necessary do something about it.
Yes i know, but i was interested to know if there were others Who were AWARE of the is degradation f service during peak hours, Other than me, Because if the masses have no clue why would they listen to 1 man or woman?


MOST PEOPLE HEREABOUTS SEE THE USE OF RANDOM BLOCKS OF CAPITALS IN A POSTING AS THE SAME AS SHOUTING AT PEOPLE IN THE STREET - FACT.
In the absence of BOLD TYPE FONTS, HOW else do you expect people to emphasise their issues? I aint SHOUTING at anyone [censored]
Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Fri 21-Feb-25 09:19:03
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Re: Peak hours JITTER on BQM


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Apart from the period when you where trying to shift gateways I can't see a lot wrong with that graph.
Standard User PCJM40
(experienced) Fri 21-Feb-25 10:12:53
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Re: Peak hours JITTER on BQM


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Yes i know, but i was interested to know if there were others Who were AWARE of the is degradation f service during peak hours, Other than me, Because if the masses have no clue why would they listen to 1 man or woman?
I said it because you started a thread called "Pstn line fault" on the 4th February 2025 (less than 3 weeks ago), so you seem generally unhappy with your broadband. See the content of that thread below
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Today My FFTC 80/20 service was reduced to Less than 50% sync was Full for both up and down, now 37.5mbps and the upload is 12 meg, My phone line has no dial tone, But i can ring it, but no ringer,, number is registered on display calls cannot be made not that you could hear anything if they could, Reported to the Phone suppliers and received a text from OR saying their tests suggest the fault is outside my property, Give em a clap, One of their staff or the subcontracted idiots has CAUSED the fault , buy disconnecting one leg of my Pair At the PCPmost likley

The same thing Happened last year around this time of the year , but i was in hospital then, but the stats program captured the same thing, switching from 80/20 to 40/10 and back several times of a a few weeks


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Standard User PCJM40
(experienced) Fri 21-Feb-25 10:17:27
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Re: Peak hours JITTER on BQM


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In the absence of BOLD TYPE FONTS, HOW else do you expect people to emphasise their issues? I aint SHOUTING at anyone [censored]
This forum has the facility to do bold type and italics and different colours
Standard User billford
(elder) Fri 21-Feb-25 10:22:59
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Re: Peak hours JITTER on BQM


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In the absence of BOLD TYPE FONTS
Not true, lots of options- https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/faq_english.php#html

There are also 3 buttons above the text entry box to embolden, italicise or underline selected text.
Standard User Andrue
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 21-Feb-25 12:06:28
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Re: Peak hours JITTER on BQM


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In reply to a post by tommy45:
... nested quotes trimmed ...
Yes i know, but i was interested to know if there were others Who were AWARE of the is degradation f service during peak hours, Other than me, Because if the masses have no clue why would they listen to 1 man or woman?


MOST PEOPLE HEREABOUTS SEE THE USE OF RANDOM BLOCKS OF CAPITALS IN A POSTING AS THE SAME AS SHOUTING AT PEOPLE IN THE STREET - FACT.
In the absence of BOLD TYPE FONTS, HOW else do you expect people to emphasise their issues? I aint SHOUTING at anyone [censored]
Plenty of ways as has been pointed out. However you really need to calm down. You're coming across like some spoilt brat sat in a basement throwing his toys around because things aren't as perfect as you'd like. People are struggling to take you seriously as a result.

Calm down!

It's a residential service and that means best efforts so at times things will go wrong. you have to understand and accept that. Be polite. Describe the problem accurately (something you have still failed to do) and then wait.

You're acting as if your life is in danger and it's the end of the world. It's very hard for anyone to take you seriously when you're doing that.

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Andrue Cope
Brackley, UK
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Fri 21-Feb-25 12:30:42
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Re: Peak hours JITTER on BQM


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The problem was lower and fluctuating throughput, during peak time, Something that Shouldn't be happening, and is a result of over loading their network, The jitter on the graph is a visible sign of this happening, Usually a lot worse when you see the hump effect or packet loss too Which I would expect on BT WMC or what ever they call it, But not on an ISP's own network as they should be monitoring things as it is in their control, This clearly ain't happening

And when they prevent you from hopping on to London gateways, it gets frustrating, As for the other issue that was caused outside the ISP control i was not blaming them, but BT open reach or their subbies
Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Fri 21-Feb-25 13:52:14
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Re: ZEN Peak hours JITTER on BQM


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Try this tool from Cloudflare. It will show you;
Download
Upload
Latency
Jitter
Packet Loss
At the end it will give you an overall network score for different scenarios such as gaming etc
Please wait till completed and should take a couple of minutes.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi...
Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 21-Feb-25 13:59:20
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Slight peak time congestion is going to have to be something that residential customers get used to, an ISP cannot operate multigig broadband services and have the onward capacity for everybody to hit 90%+ of their headline rate on a single connection.

The bulk of high throughput activities are multi-threaded, speedtests or IPsec tunnels are really the only things left that shift a lot of data around and use single connections.

Edited by jpm (Fri 21-Feb-25 13:59:39)

Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Fri 21-Feb-25 14:03:24
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+1
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