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Standard User DFScale
(experienced) Thu 03-Jul-25 17:35:48
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Re: Own router and digital voice methods


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Half the battle in supporting 3rd party VOIP hardware such as a grandstream would be getting the VOIP settings and credentials from ZEN. If this isn't forthcoming then I'm stuck. The actual configuration doesn't faze me, just the availability of such information to make it work.

Then don't get VoIP from Zen. Superficially it looks simpler to take telephony from your ISP, but it is a world of complication when you want to change ISP. There are plenty of VoIP service providers out there and provided you avoid CGNAT ISPs, changing ISP does not affect your telephone service.
Standard User mrwrighty
(newbie) Thu 03-Jul-25 20:16:19
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I can’t separate them. TalkTalk will not let me separate them as it’s linked to my FTTP account, moving my phone line from TalkTalk will cancel my FTTP service, yes true even though the landline is still on copper. ZEN will take over the FTTP and my landline, but I have to keep both with them for the duration of the 18 months contract as confirmed by a phone call from their sales team.
Standard User GonePostal
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 03-Jul-25 20:50:41
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Re: Own router and digital voice methods


[re: mrwrighty] [link to this post]
 
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I can’t separate them. TalkTalk will not let me separate them as it’s linked to my FTTP account, moving my phone line from TalkTalk will cancel my FTTP service, yes true even though the landline is still on copper. ZEN will take over the FTTP and my landline, but I have to keep both with them for the duration of the 18 months contract as confirmed by a phone call from their sales team.


You can break that logjam by ordering a new FTTP service (not a take over of an existing service) from Zen without any phone element then once you are happy that is working you get a VoIP provider to take over your phone service. The VoIP provider will trigger the cessation of your TalkTalk service but you already have the Zen FTTP up and running. The downside is one or two months of double cost while you run TalkTalk and Zen in parallel.


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Standard User mrwrighty
(newbie) Tue 08-Jul-25 12:33:24
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Then I have 2 fibre connection to the house, the old one will never be removed and 2 x ONT installations, yes an option, but not one I will be taking.
Standard User tdw42
(committed) Tue 08-Jul-25 14:03:34
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An ISP who knows what they are doing could request a replacement ONT with four ports so you only have a slightly larger ONT but still a single box on wall / power supply / fibre connection to the premises.
Standard User PCJM40
(experienced) Tue 08-Jul-25 15:41:29
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An ISP who knows what they are doing could request a replacement ONT with four ports so you only have a slightly larger ONT but still a single box on wall / power supply / fibre connection to the premises.
There was a time when some ISPs had an issue with providing/taking over a FTTP service on anything other than the first port, does anyone know if that issue has been resolved now?
Standard User CHW_BA12
(newbie) Mon 22-Dec-25 17:55:42
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Hi DazColl,
Did you ever resolve this?
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