That's fine, it's not in the way 🤗

I have recently had Plusnet FTTP installed. When this was got to work the installer cut the FTTC cable.

Strangely the FTTP is both faster and for the 1st year cheaper than the FTTC was.

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

Strangely the FTTP is both faster and for the 1st year cheaper than the FTTC was.

I don't think that it is particularly strange:

My understanding is that Openreach are offering Full Fibre to ISPs at a lower wholesale price than FTTC. This is to both reflect the inherent greater reliability of FTTP, (and hence lower maintenance costs), and to promote take-up.

I would be more surprised if it only cheaper for the first year and not in the longer term too.

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

Strangely the FTTP is both faster and for the 1st year cheaper than the FTTC was.

I should very much hope it's faster as it does not use copper cable. As suggested by MK65it should also be cheaper overall due to reduced infrastructure costs.

What speed do you go from and to?

In reply to a post by ashdown:

If an existing FTTC connection is left in place when installing a new FTTP connection, then doesn't that leave an unwanted drop wire in place (if the FTTC was delivered using an overhead cable) when the FTTC is cancelled?

There are no guarantees that they will remove the old wire either way, it comes down to if the specific engineer finds its easier to use the old wire to pull the new one.

This can also be a drawback as I still had POTS when my FTTP was installed and a miscommunication ended up with the engineer removing the old line to pull the fibre. So I had no phone line for a week as I migrated it over to VoIP.

Edited by alexatkin (Sat 09-May-26 09:45:28)

Update.

Switched to Olilo this week from Zen, using the one touch switch.

New OR fibre installation was about an hour and service up and running with speeds as advertised.

Very impressed with Olilo’s customer service so far.

Using a Fritz!Box 7530 AX with no major issues, just a few niggles with settings but otherwise all good.

Yet to have the first invoice from Olilo or the final invoice trom Zen (with hopefully a partial refund).

Edited by astanden (Fri 15-May-26 12:45:03)

In reply to a post by burble:

AFAIK once you have swapped to FTTP you won't be able to revert back to FTTC

Only if you are in a Fibre Priority area with copper stop-sell in place.

But frankly, I don't think anybody in their right mind would want to switch back anyway. Fibre is far more reliable, and you always get the speed you pay for.

It's an issue about resilience; if you're in an area with poor mobile coverage, then relying on fibre represents a vulnerability with poor work-arounds.

I think you're talking about PSTN switchoff (analogue voice), which is a completely separate issue.

Even when there is no copper stop-sell in place, you cannot buy an analogue phone line. You have not been able to do so since (IIRC) September 2023.

In reply to a post by CHW_BA12:

It's an issue about resilience; if you're in an area with poor mobile coverage, then relying on fibre represents a vulnerability with poor work-arounds.

In what way? FTTP is more resilient than SOGEA (FTTC as was) being passive between the premises and head-end exchange (*), not reliant on poorly maintained or missing batteries in DSLAM cabinets.

The PSTN shutdown requiring active equipment at the premises for VoIP / Digital Voice is a completely different matter, and not something raised by the OP.

* except for some rural installations with subtended headends.