Routers on AAISP

AAISP solved one of my problems I think by supplying one of their pre-configured routers the Zyxel, but I have not as yet found out how I can get all my stats out of it ie. snr, attenuation etc as was possible on my old netgear, nor can I find info. on how to telnet the whole stats stuff.. Anyone able to help by explaining the way to do this please ?

Second request the zyxel tends to drop synch every night so BRAS profile is rather a mess unlike the Netgear which did hold on to the bitter end, don't want to return to netgear as zyxel gives a much better synch speed, is there any way of rigging anything up so I can use the capabilities of both routers ?

Not sure what model you have, but you might want to take a look at Kitz Frog Stats

Alan

In reply to a post by aramsay:

Not sure what model you have, but you might want to take a look at Kitz Frog Stats

Alan

thanks, yes I tried using the info. on Kitz but cannot get the menus they mention, just turned it upside down and its says..P-660HW-T1 v2
Tried via routerstaslite to get the raw Telnet data but it seems the router and routerstats don't like each other either, did a quick drop in try to read it then get a violation message <grin> having great entertainment here how fast can I read before i get booted again..LOL's

Edited to add just found the basic info. I needed via kitz and having a good laugh here reading it, very pleased indeed with AAISP....

Edited by deleted (Thu 17-Sep-09 15:30:45)

Try this for the Zyxel CLI manual - as it says, it's a generic manual, so some commands don't work on all models, but it's been easy enough for me to figure out which do and don't work on the 660HW-T1 V2 A&A sent me.

ftp://ftp2.zyxel.com/ftp/pub/downloadlibrary/P-660W-...

The main commands I use regularly are:
w ad ch (shows DSL Mode and synch speeds)

w ad p (shows Error Stats)

w ad l n
w ad l f
^^ (These 2 show downstream (n) and upstream (f) Att, SNRM, power & tones)

w ad diag (shows just about all you could ever want - if you can understand it all)

[edit] And BTW, the latest firmware for this was released by Zyxel only 3 days ago - I haven't tried flashing to that yet, but if you want to check it out, it's here - Latest Firmware

Edited by amci (Sat 19-Sep-09 10:27:16)

Thank you very much indeed for the info. It worked perfectly using those commands.

I do seem to be getting a rather large amount of errors though

Edited to add not sure if flashing firmware is wise on mine as it has a few quirky habits which I greatly appreciate re the SNR...

Edited by deleted (Sat 19-Sep-09 15:21:50)

No problem.

My Zyxel also reports rather high error counts - certainly more than I was seeing from my previous Belkin - but using the Zyxel has also coincided with moving to WBC/21CN on A&A, so I'm not 100% sure if being on ADSL2 mode now is the reason.

I suspect that either the Zyxel is misreporting some or all error counters, or alternatively, it may be that the interaction of the Zyxel with the Huawei MSAN in my exchange is actually causing some of them. I've read a few things which imply that the Zyxels don't get on very well with the Infineon chipsets in the Hauwei MSANs.

BTW - my T1-v2 error counters all rollover @ 65K - way lower than previous routers - so you'll need to account for that if you're monitoring error counts over time.

I'm also not keen on flashing to newest firmware just yet, but I've downloaded the file already so that I at least have it in case it vanishes from Zyxel's site

In reply to a post by amci:

.........the interaction of the Zyxel with the Huawei MSAN in my exchange is actually causing some of them. I've read a few things which imply that the Zyxels don't get on very well with the Infineon chipsets in the Hauwei MSANs.

Sorry to butt in on this thread, but isn't there a command for the Zyxels that will tell you the chipset used in the DSLAM or the MSAN? It might be helpful to know what I'm linked to. I've looked through the pdf you provided but can't find anything.

Yep - first, try

w ad v

Which should apparently return VendorIDs, but in my case just returns zeros for both near and far end - worth checking on yours first though.

If that gives zeros as mine does, then use

w ad farituid

Which should give you something like
far end itu identification: b5 0 49 46 54 4e 71 b9

The result is hex ASCII codes, and I believe the first 2 codes (b5 0) relate to the vendor country, and the last 2 (71 b9) are vendor specific codes, while the 4 codes/characters in between (49 46 54 4e) convert from hex to alpha to give the vendor chipset (MSAN code) -- IFTN in my case, so Infineon... as used in Huwaei MSANs.

There's a useful ascii table here if you need it - http://www.ascii-code.com/

And there may be others, but the MSAN codes I've read of are:

ALCB = Alcatel (ST Micro)
ANDV = Analog Devices
BDCM = Broadcom
GSPN = Globespan
IFTN = Infineon (Huawei)
STMI = ST Micro
TMMB = Thomson Multimedia Broadband
TSTC = Texas Instruments

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the info.

In my case w ad v gives the router chipset - in this case a TI AR7

Using w ad farituid give a further list of options. Eg chandata, dyinggasp, rateadap etc. No suggestion of anything to do with vendor IDs.

I guess yours is a different model to mine (P660HW-T1 V2) then.

I assume W AD V gave TI AR7 for Near End and 0 or some such for Far End (the MSAN/DSLAM).

If you just got the command options list from W AD FAR, then your router didn't recognise W AD FAR at all... just the W AD part.

The CLI just shows available command options for any part which it does recognise, so you got the list of available options for W AD -- i.e. if you just type ? then you'll see all top level commands... type W(an) and you'll see the list of Wan commands available (atm, adsl, node etc), or if you type W(an) AD(sl) then you'll see available options for the ADSL interface, and so on.

If Farituid IS in the W AD list then it should have at least worked, even if it returned 0, but if it's not then you have a different command set to mine, in which case you could look for anything else to do with ITU or ID.

Failing that, it might be worth looking in the W AT(m) commands to see if there's anything there -- I only get Test and VCHunt there, but yours may be different.

Otherwise, I'm out of ideas I'm afraid - I'm picking all this up as I go along myself - sorry.

[edit] Just another thought - might be worth trying the W AD DIAG command if you have that, and plowing through the results if they're like mine... seems to run almost all WAN commands one after another, so if any of them return any vendor info you might be able to spot it in the results.

Edited by amci (Sun 20-Sep-09 10:59:43)

In reply to a post by amci:

I assume W AD V gave TI AR7 for Near End and 0 or some such for Far End (the MSAN/DSLAM).

It just gave TI AR7 for the near end and nothing at all for the far.

In reply to a post by amci:

If you just got the command options list from W AD FAR, then your router didn't recognise W AD FAR at all... just the W AD part.

Looks as if that's the case. I have a feeling the commands are slightly different for mine - a 662H. I'm pretty sure there is such a command, it's just that I can't find it

Thanks for the information. I'll have another rummage through the commands to see if anything presents itself.