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Standard User DrBob
(learned) Tue 03-May-22 11:51:36
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: jpm] [link to this post]
 
Hmm, posted on saturday. Might it be related to a new law introduced on friday (with very little notice).

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2022/04/russia...
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Tue 03-May-22 14:35:11
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: jpm] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jpm:
Also important to have some perspective here - this is a speed test server. Nobody has mentioned any actual services they use being hosted by MT that are affected by this.

+1
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Tue 03-May-22 21:36:23
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: alexatkin] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by alexatkin:
In reply to a post by andrewhearn:
I manually changed our routing to prefer NTT over Level3/Lumen for this prefix - it's a hop longer, but far lower latency (as it's not been routed to a different contrinent!)

I've also asked Mauritius Telecom if they'd like to peer over LINX...


While your quick response is to be congratulated (as obviously your primary goal is for your customers to get the best experience), what can be done to push a proper fix higher up the chain?

I checked Zen, Vodafone and Three, they all have problem with this route and aren't using level3 to get there. Surely this is a core routing issue and needs to be addressed?

I checked Cogent (a common peer amongst them all) and there seems to be no way for a normal human to contact them other than their info e-mail address. Wouldn't an ISP have more clout here?


If they do as he requests on the LINX peering, that might work for all the other isp's.


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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sun 08-May-22 08:37:10
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: farnz] [link to this post]
 
However, if you're paying Mauritius Telecom for something, and point out this divergence, they may well be willing to adjust their routing to keep their paying customers happy.

Might try messaging nPerf about this as it quite likely this anomaly was first noticed by @E300 in speed testing using their system.

In the case of MT it’s noted a 10Gbps connection (one of only three in the UK - the other two being OVH and DataPacket) - the rest being 1Gbps connections and a sole 2 Gbps connection.

I’m sure nPerf folk want their tools to be associated with accurate results wink
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-May-22 10:33:08
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
So I've had a response from nPerf Helpdesk this morning...

"Hello,

We have restricted the use of your server to Mauritius. This server will no longer be accessible in London.

Best regards

Virgile"

😂😂

Fair play Virgile, that's one way of tacking the problem...
Standard User E300
(committed) Wed 18-May-22 13:26:51
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
That is funny, so they've restricted a server that resides in London for those in Mauritius, I bet people are not going to be impressed with the speeds when testing from Mauritius.

Isn't one of the points of having multiple servers in different locations on speed tests to help find issues such as this? A big fail for nPerf then and I was getting my best speed test results from that 10Gbps Mauritius Telecom server on nPerf after the routing was fixed, probably because it wasn't ever being maxed out as most tests were going the roundabout route and slowed down smile

Edited by E300 (Wed 18-May-22 13:27:16)

Standard User Ixel
(experienced) Wed 18-May-22 13:51:22
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: E300] [link to this post]
 
Thought I'd add my results here although a bit late.

Cerberus Networks (FTTP):
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45
67
89
1011
12
Tracing route to 197.227.5.218 over a maximum of 30 hops
   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  no-ptr.local [192.168.0.1]
  2     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  thn-lns07-l6.cerberus.net.uk [46.37.48.1]  3     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  hex-gw06-te030-43.cerberus.net.uk [46.37.33.43]
  4     7 ms     7 ms     6 ms  te0-0-0-11.rcr21.b015534-1.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [149.14.248.185]  5     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  be2186.ccr22.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.61.70]
  6   163 ms   163 ms   163 ms  be2489.ccr51.jnb01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.88.222]  7   207 ms   207 ms   207 ms  206.249.0.154
  8   207 ms   210 ms   207 ms  197.226.230.50  9   207 ms   207 ms   207 ms  197.226.230.4
 10   207 ms   207 ms   207 ms  197.227.5.218


OVH via GRE tunnel from my network (server is in London):
Text
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23
45
67
89
1011
1213
1415
16
Tracing route to 197.227.5.218 over a maximum of 30 hops
   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  [redacted] [x.x.x.x]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.  3     7 ms     8 ms     7 ms  [redacted]
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.  7     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms  be103.lon-drch-sbb1-nc5.uk.eu [91.121.215.118]
  8    37 ms    12 ms    12 ms  be101.rbx-g4-nc5.fr.eu [54.36.50.231]  9    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  par-gsw-sbb1-nc5.fr.eu [54.36.50.228]
 10    30 ms    30 ms    38 ms  be101.mrs-mrs2-sbb1-nc5.fr.eu [54.36.50.159] 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  mauritius.mrs.franceix.net [37.49.232.43] 13    46 ms    46 ms    47 ms  197.226.230.20
 14    44 ms    44 ms    44 ms  197.227.5.218


The second result seems to go via France.

Edited by Ixel (Wed 18-May-22 13:58:52)

Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Wed 18-May-22 14:48:22
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: E300] [link to this post]
 
Very much dumped in the "too hard basket" by nPerf
Standard User Rhynchelma
(learned) Wed 18-May-22 16:13:53
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
Very much dumped in the "too hard basket" by nPerf

Or maybe the "Can't be ar...d"
Standard User XGS_Is_On
(learned) Wed 18-May-22 19:57:54
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Re: Routing differences, AAISP taking the scenic route


[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Pheasant:
Very much dumped in the "too hard basket" by nPerf


Probably dumped in the basket where it shouldn't have been available to the UK to begin with, the complaints drew attention to it, and it was nailed down.

London is a legitimate location for Mauritius Telecom testing.
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