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Standard User therioman
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Aug-22 22:55:22
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Re: SOGEA / SOTAP and existing phone numbers


[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by j0hn83:
In reply to a post by therioman:
In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/aaisp/t/4718680-re...

It is reasonably common for lines that are transferred to SOGEA to have a vestige of the voice service still active. Sending someone to go recover the jumper from the voice out port to the bar pair/TAMS costs money. So they just remotely switch off the active part of the voice service.
A stopped line is the usual term for this.


Interesting, because on 200+ lines I've converted not one had any dialtone afterwards.


The official SOGEA and SOGFast SIN makes mention that most lines will have no dial tone but Openreach can't guarantee the dial tone won't persist from the losing CP equipment.

By default Openreach renumber the line so when the dial tone does persist it will be a different number with no incoming/outgoing calls.

So it does happen.

When the "D-Side only SOGEA/SOGFast" trials progress beyond mildenhall and East Anglia then it won't be an issue.

Edit: i see Openreach have now published some dates for CP's via a briefing on when d-side only will come in to effect on specific exchanges.

https://www.openreach.co.uk/cpportal/updates/briefin...


Thanks for that - I hadn’t spotted that or seen that in any of the migrations I’d done. Must be lucky. Or unlucky, given how often pairs still get stolen.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 18-Aug-22 21:30:39
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Re: SOGEA / SOTAP and existing phone numbers


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Sorry, slow reply.

Yes, soft dial tone. John has provided the full technical reason why further down.

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(deleted) Thu 18-Aug-22 22:35:23
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Yes, soft dial tone.
Thanks


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