In reply to a post by CARPETBURN:

Personally id like ofcom to step in and make it compulsory that every internet provider or service clearly advertises any type of traffic tinkering they do in detail. Plusnet seem to do this, so theres no reason others cant, especially BT as (unless im wrong) they own Plusnet.

I mean come on its 2010 either make ISPs fess up to what tinkering they intend to do in detail or if they refuse ban silly traffic shaping etc altogether and enforce net neutrality for them all. We are the paying customer, we deserve to know what we get or dont get for our money.

Well said.

BT do indeed own Plusnet. The possibly apocryphal story is they bought it to get hold of the well-developed Ellacoya traffic management technology and expertise.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by CARPETBURN:

Personally id like ofcom to step in and make it compulsory that every internet provider or service clearly advertises any type of traffic tinkering they do in detail. Plusnet seem to do this, so theres no reason others cant, especially BT as (unless im wrong) they own Plusnet.

I mean come on its 2010 either make ISPs fess up to what tinkering they intend to do in detail or if they refuse ban silly traffic shaping etc altogether and enforce net neutrality for them all. We are the paying customer, we deserve to know what we get or dont get for our money.

Well said.

BT do indeed own Plusnet. The possibly apocryphal story is they bought it to get hold of the well-developed Ellacoya traffic management technology and expertise.

Traffic shaping is horrid IMO... HOWEVER if companies like plusnet advertised clearly what gets shaped then people have no cause for complaint.

Plusnet would not suit me personally but in their case if anyone moans about traffic shaping id defend that company, they make it clear enough they will throttle you and what gets throttled, if you still sign up and dont like it thats your own fault.

With others though alot of the time its pot luck as to if a service you choose to use entirely legally gets throttled or not and thats unacceptable no matter who the ISP is.

Kudos to BT for being honest P2P is throttled, but id like more info on what else apart from torrenting and similar that may end up affecting, even more so when you are buying a service specifically for its speed. (or claimed speed).