Moving From Fully Unbundled Sky

Hey Guys,

Just back from Canada, had a 100 Meg line coming in to the apartment. Now home realized that 4 Meg on SKY isn't good enough.

Ran a speedcheck on BT.com, advised I could get 28Meg on FTTC "Now".

I have forgotten the process. I would like to keep my phone with Sky and Move internet to BT FTTC. How would I go about doing this, or is it even possible?

Thanks

Paul
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No Doot Aboot It

Just phone Sky and ask for your MAC (code), they gave me mine over the phone, and when you sign up online with BT you can put it in there.

You will be given a list of appointment dates, pick the one best for you and it's done.

Thanks! Got it instantly. To confirm I have no choice but to move back to rip off BT for my calls?

Yes phone has to come back to BT.

Unless that is you want to wait and see if SKY start doing Fibre from that Exchange/Cabinet.

Whats the wait............Dont ask me

Thanks for everyone's' input, after working out the Cost of a 18 month contract with BT, I'll endure the tedious sky broadband and hope they jump aboard the FTTC ship!

There are other suppliers of fibre broadband. ADSL24 for instance.

I would not go back to Bt either, no matter how much faster I can get. I cope with 4megabits,

In reply to a post by trollface:

Thanks! Got it instantly. To confirm I have no choice but to move back to rip off BT for my calls?

If you want Infinity, which is the BT Retail FTTC offering, then yes.

As has been said, there are several other FTTC providers, and you do not need a BT Retail phone line for those. You could probably even keep your Sky phone line, they would just revert it to a normal "BT Line", (Wholesale Line Rental).

For example, the Post Office is a monthly contract for the phone, and you could choose most of the ones on this spreadsheet to go on that or your Sky line. A few of those FTTC providers could also supply the phone line.

If you choose Rental Saver with BT, you don't pay £13/mo anymore. Just £120 once and you're sorted for a year (calculates at £10/mo). Just remember to make at least 2 calls per month (they could be inclusive) - otherwise there's a hidden charge.

I took the bundle (BT Infinity Option 2 + Unlimited Anytime Calls) + Rental Saver.
£28/mo, 18 month contract and 3 first months for Free.

Not so bad, in fact, for 37.5down and 8up. There is obviously a cap on this VDSL line - the engineer's tester shown 40000/10000 rock stable. The promise on Infinity site was 32/7. Virgin is on my street but won't go to my house. O2 did the best there is on my line, which was about 3.8/1... sucked to sit & wait for videos to download.

The Home Hub 3 is WiFi 802.11n enabled, has four ports of which one (No.4) is gigabit, the rest are fastethernet (100Mbps). All ports active, the local transfer speed is very decent.

Perks:
Email, Digital Vault (5GB), Automatic backup program, and security solution which is I guess based on McAfee -- free. Plus BT speedtester available which shows your BT profile.

I'm quite pleased with the product, especially taking into account that couple years ago I left BT for O2 due to BT's DLM being too harsh on my SNR margin.

Edited by deleted (Wed 25-May-11 03:55:55)

The highest IP Profile is 38717kbps. So as long as you have that, your line isn't capped, or underperforming.

Re the BT speed test, that works on any BT Wholesale ISP. In other words everything except LLU. As there are no LLU FTTC providers yet, (although one poster is saying TT are now taking orders even though it isn't shown as available on their website), that includes any of the FTTC suppliers.

I have moved from Sky to BT because I have an underground cable problem, When it is raining I have terrible problems with my internet. With sky I used to moan because I only had 7megs instead of the 8 I was paying for. Sky couldn't sort out the underground cable without it costing a small fortune. Now I have moved back to BT. I am lucky to get enough to get on the internet at all. I have attached my signal tests. Please note most of the signal tests are taken using my modem plugged directly into the modem with a cat Rj45 cable. The other good results, with a different ip address are using my laptop wireless on my friends virginmedia account. So if I was you I would stay with Sky, there results were 7. something all the time day or night.
To correct the underground cable problem, an engineer needs to come when it is raining the engineer said or they find no fault and I will have to pay the £160 they said at BT. When my contract is up with BT I am going to use a pay as you go dongle instead because I can not have a full conversation on Skype. When it is really raining and has been for a couple of days i can not even get on the internet.



Speedtest Results





Date

Day

Downstream

Upstream

IP Address

Connection





28/05/11 14:46

Sat

5781 Kbps

375 Kbps

86.136.169.209







26/05/11 19:40

Thu

4760 Kbps

369 Kbps

86.136.169.209







10/05/11 23:29

Tue

5548 Kbps

271 Kbps

81.129.43.189







25/04/11 20:41

Mon

4292 Kbps

366 Kbps

86.130.47.117







19/04/11 20:58

Tue

1778 Kbps

121 Kbps

86.136.226.95







19/04/11 20:30

Tue

1896 Kbps

371 Kbps

86.136.226.95







19/04/11 19:58

Tue

1896 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.136.226.95







19/04/11 19:56

Tue

1897 Kbps

374 Kbps

86.136.226.95







13/04/11 22:06

Wed

5297 Kbps

185 Kbps

86.142.119.53







10/04/11 22:32

Sun

6164 Kbps

302 Kbps

86.149.78.112







09/04/11 21:51

Sat

5310 Kbps

188 Kbps

86.149.78.112







09/04/11 18:44

Sat

6378 Kbps

374 Kbps

86.149.78.112







06/04/11 23:45

Wed

3468 Kbps

176 Kbps

86.149.78.112







06/04/11 22:28

Wed

3194 Kbps

299 Kbps

86.149.78.112







25/03/11 20:20

Fri

5234 Kbps

273 Kbps

86.151.119.26







21/03/11 23:59

Mon

6661 Kbps

375 Kbps

86.143.213.241







31/01/11 19:37

Mon

5206 Kbps

368 Kbps

86.130.47.217







20/01/11 19:30

Thu

6217 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.151.121.87







16/12/10 23:13

Thu

4912 Kbps

354 Kbps

86.151.118.36







07/11/10 06:36

Sun

525 Kbps

220 Kbps

81.155.121.77







03/11/10 00:23

Wed

4305 Kbps

137 Kbps

81.155.121.77







31/10/10 21:51

Sun

4257 Kbps

157 Kbps

81.155.121.77







31/10/10 21:25

Sun

3397 Kbps

326 Kbps

81.155.121.77







31/10/10 21:02

Sun

1080 Kbps

330 Kbps

81.155.121.77







05/10/10 20:17

Tue

4982 Kbps

377 Kbps

81.153.156.232







05/10/10 02:14

Tue

821 Kbps

375 Kbps

81.153.156.232







05/10/10 00:31

Tue

561 Kbps

363 Kbps

81.153.156.232







05/10/10 00:24

Tue

818 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.153.156.232







05/10/10 00:22

Tue

815 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.153.156.232







29/09/10 23:36

Wed

5668 Kbps

372 Kbps

86.136.225.209







23/09/10 21:57

Thu

5827 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.136.225.209







23/09/10 21:31

Thu

3554 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.136.225.209







14/09/10 19:26

Tue

2998 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.137.43.249







09/09/10 23:17

Thu

5378 Kbps

372 Kbps

81.158.249.227







09/09/10 16:12

Thu

4543 Kbps

361 Kbps

81.158.249.227







26/08/10 01:18

Thu

5614 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.165.1.48







26/08/10 00:54

Thu

5610 Kbps

346 Kbps

86.165.1.48







25/08/10 21:45

Wed

4716 Kbps

370 Kbps

86.165.1.48







25/08/10 21:41

Wed

3838 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.165.1.48







25/08/10 21:40

Wed

5084 Kbps

354 Kbps

86.165.1.48







25/08/10 21:30

Wed

2302 Kbps

375 Kbps

86.165.1.48







25/08/10 21:28

Wed

3982 Kbps

357 Kbps

86.165.1.48







25/08/10 21:26

Wed

3505 Kbps

341 Kbps

86.165.1.48







25/08/10 21:21

Wed

3632 Kbps

354 Kbps

86.165.111.77







25/08/10 20:43

Wed

5308 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.165.111.77







25/08/10 20:15

Wed

3859 Kbps

342 Kbps

86.165.111.77







23/08/10 17:00

Mon

5602 Kbps

375 Kbps

81.129.47.181







23/08/10 16:55

Mon

4615 Kbps

371 Kbps

81.129.47.181







23/08/10 16:52

Mon

5495 Kbps

372 Kbps

81.129.47.181







21/08/10 06:16

Sat

5640 Kbps

332 Kbps

86.136.230.237







16/08/10 23:50

Mon

5452 Kbps

377 Kbps

86.150.55.107







16/08/10 22:49

Mon

3853 Kbps

178 Kbps

86.150.55.107







15/08/10 21:18

Sun

4765 Kbps

194 Kbps

86.150.55.107







10/08/10 03:08

Tue

5653 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.132.111.170







10/08/10 01:38

Tue

5568 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.132.111.170







10/08/10 01:34

Tue

5652 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.132.111.170







10/08/10 00:29

Tue

4550 Kbps

287 Kbps

81.132.111.170







10/08/10 00:26

Tue

4977 Kbps

359 Kbps

81.132.111.170







08/08/10 15:56

Sun

5187 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.165.239.155







08/08/10 14:58

Sun

5654 Kbps

374 Kbps

86.165.239.155







05/08/10 21:13

Thu

4855 Kbps

377 Kbps

86.165.239.155







02/08/10 22:39

Mon

4951 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.165.239.155







23/07/10 00:09

Fri

5591 Kbps

279 Kbps

81.129.64.93







23/07/10 00:08

Fri

5911 Kbps

278 Kbps

81.129.64.93







20/07/10 04:38

Tue

6697 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.129.64.93







20/07/10 01:01

Tue

5684 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.129.64.93







20/07/10 00:11

Tue

6128 Kbps

375 Kbps

81.129.64.93







19/07/10 23:15

Mon

4965 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.129.64.93







19/07/10 23:12

Mon

3466 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.129.64.93







03/07/10 02:15

Sat

6747 Kbps

305 Kbps

81.129.64.4







01/07/10 22:36

Thu

5921 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.142.116.55







01/07/10 02:54

Thu

5018 Kbps

354 Kbps

86.157.253.137







01/07/10 02:45

Thu

6413 Kbps

349 Kbps

86.157.253.137







01/07/10 00:18

Thu

6481 Kbps

373 Kbps

86.157.253.137







01/07/10 00:13

Thu

456 Kbps

321 Kbps

86.189.15.225







30/06/10 23:11

Wed

6668 Kbps

359 Kbps

86.157.253.137







30/06/10 22:54

Wed

5744 Kbps

342 Kbps

86.157.253.137







30/06/10 22:25

Wed

5106 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.157.253.137







29/06/10 16:20

Tue

4088 Kbps

370 Kbps

86.157.253.137







28/06/10 12:58

Mon

6425 Kbps

171 Kbps

86.157.253.137







28/06/10 12:50

Mon

4837 Kbps

121 Kbps

86.157.253.137







24/06/10 21:02

Thu

842 Kbps

351 Kbps

86.144.57.145







23/06/10 00:14

Wed

6452 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.144.57.145







22/06/10 23:46

Tue

2947 Kbps

354 Kbps

86.144.57.145







22/06/10 01:13

Tue

6687 Kbps

375 Kbps

86.144.57.145







17/06/10 00:06

Thu

5627 Kbps

199 Kbps

217.44.237.152







17/06/10 00:05

Thu

3925 Kbps

178 Kbps

217.44.237.152







17/06/10 00:03

Thu

3830 Kbps

166 Kbps

217.44.237.152







16/06/10 23:59

Wed

815 Kbps

192 Kbps

217.44.237.152







16/06/10 19:59

Wed

526 Kbps

121 Kbps

217.44.237.152







16/06/10 00:11

Wed

4967 Kbps

364 Kbps

86.139.86.208







16/06/10 00:00

Wed

2288 Kbps

355 Kbps

86.139.86.208







15/06/10 20:39

Tue

566 Kbps

148 Kbps

86.139.86.208







15/06/10 01:39

Tue

6752 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.139.86.208







14/06/10 22:06

Mon

905 Kbps

192 Kbps

86.139.86.208







14/06/10 21:13

Mon

774 Kbps

186 Kbps

86.139.86.208







13/06/10 18:17

Sun

58 Kbps

62 Kbps

81.158.253.255







13/06/10 17:50

Sun

60 Kbps

60 Kbps

81.158.253.255







13/06/10 17:13

Sun

57 Kbps

61 Kbps

81.158.253.255







12/06/10 14:11

Sat

6746 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.158.253.255







07/06/10 02:50

Mon

6672 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.138.38.239







05/06/10 20:34

Sat

963 Kbps

118 Kbps

86.138.38.239







29/05/10 00:29

Sat

6745 Kbps

328 Kbps

86.136.230.242







27/05/10 21:36

Thu

5452 Kbps

155 Kbps

86.136.230.242







27/05/10 21:06

Thu

4127 Kbps

137 Kbps

86.136.230.242







24/05/10 20:12

Mon

4211 Kbps

142 Kbps

86.130.46.4







24/05/10 18:11

Mon

6418 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.130.46.4







23/05/10 23:49

Sun

5799 Kbps

122 Kbps

86.149.8.26







23/05/10 00:42

Sun

6669 Kbps

366 Kbps

86.149.8.26







22/05/10 23:31

Sat

6747 Kbps

339 Kbps

86.149.8.26







22/05/10 22:40

Sat

5400 Kbps

125 Kbps

86.149.8.26







22/05/10 21:57

Sat

4792 Kbps

131 Kbps

86.149.8.26







21/05/10 11:20

Fri

6754 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.147.145.69







21/05/10 00:15

Fri

6294 Kbps

216 Kbps

217.42.77.149







20/05/10 04:04

Thu

6641 Kbps

375 Kbps

86.130.44.77







20/05/10 01:25

Thu

5767 Kbps

130 Kbps

86.130.44.77







19/05/10 23:39

Wed

5667 Kbps

127 Kbps

86.130.44.77







19/05/10 19:30

Wed

1904 Kbps

354 Kbps

86.130.44.77







19/05/10 19:05

Wed

3675 Kbps

373 Kbps

86.130.44.77







19/05/10 14:09

Wed

6517 Kbps

376 Kbps

86.130.44.77







19/05/10 00:00

Wed

5748 Kbps

138 Kbps

81.135.114.146







18/05/10 23:36

Tue

6163 Kbps

212 Kbps

81.135.114.146







18/05/10 19:53

Tue

6629 Kbps

371 Kbps

81.135.114.146







18/05/10 19:43

Tue

6094 Kbps

374 Kbps

81.135.114.146







18/05/10 19:16

Tue

3178 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.135.114.146







18/05/10 15:19

Tue

6448 Kbps

374 Kbps

81.135.114.146







18/05/10 13:19

Tue

6714 Kbps

377 Kbps

81.135.114.146







18/05/10 02:03

Tue

5253 Kbps

198 Kbps

81.135.114.146







18/05/10 01:52

Tue

4217 Kbps

136 Kbps

81.135.114.146







18/05/10 01:49

Tue

4348 Kbps

125 Kbps

81.135.114.146







17/05/10 22:30

Mon

5666 Kbps

376 Kbps

81.135.114.146







17/05/10 22:28

Mon

5898 Kbps

341 Kbps

81.135.114.146







17/05/10 20:47

Mon

1679 Kbps

373 Kbps

81.135.114.146

In reply to a post by sussiec:

I have moved from Sky to BT because I have an underground cable problem, When it is raining I have terrible problems with my internet. With sky I used to moan because I only had 7megs instead of the 8 I was paying for. Sky couldn't sort out the underground cable without it costing a small fortune. Now I have moved back to BT. I am lucky to get enough to get on the internet at all. I have attached my signal tests. Please note most of the signal tests are taken using my modem plugged directly into the modem with a cat Rj45 cable. The other good results, with a different ip address are using my laptop wireless on my friends virginmedia account. So if I was you I would stay with Sky, there results were 7. something all the time day or night.
To correct the underground cable problem, an engineer needs to come when it is raining the engineer said or they find no fault and I will have to pay the £160 they said at BT. When my contract is up with BT I am going to use a pay as you go dongle instead because I can

What made you think that moving from Sky to BT would sort out a cable problem?

In reply to a post by sussiec:

I have moved from Sky to BT because I have an underground cable problem, When it is raining I have terrible problems with my internet. With sky I used to moan because I only had 7megs instead of the 8 I was paying for.

Come on , your not telling us you moved ISP`s because you were only getting 7Mb instead of WHAT WAS an UPTO 8Mb connection.

jeez!!!!

In reply to a post by sussiec:

With sky I used to moan because I only had 7megs instead of the 8 I was paying for.

You were paying for up to 8 Megs! How on earth do you know whether your line was even capable of 8 Megs, even without the drips? You provide insufficient evidence to justify your moans.

joke is he was probably sync'd at the full 8 meg, just losing the normal amount due to network overheads and the odd bit of traffic.

Edited by deleted (Thu 16-Jun-11 18:35:40)

In reply to a post by FRS_Plunderer:

joke is he was probably sync'd at the full 8 meg, just loosing the normal amount due to network overheads and the odd bit of traffic.

And now has throttling on any P2P .

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.